Chiefs Alexander Douglas Smith: 2016 - Page 12

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-17-2016, 10:44 AM

We wouldn't we want to roll out another Alex Smith thread?!?!? Listen, for the Clay haters, this will probably be the thread that gets him banned. He can't help himself, right? Let's go!!!

First off, as many of you know, I have been very critical of Alexander Douglas Smith. Wasn't happy with the trade, HATED the extension, and have burned him to the ground from the beginning. So ****ing sick of the retread QB's.

So, that said Alex Smith is my Daddy. I mean, I just have to own that at this point. Here's why. He's never had continuity in a system. That guy had a new offensive coordinator just about every year until Jim Harbaugh showed up. And he flashed a little bit. That said, it sure looks like San Fran traded their best QB to us in favor of some douche that's starting some thing all over the league, while riding the bench to a guy named Blaine Gabbert.

Alex is now in his 4th year of the same system and it's showing. He's getting better. Why is he my daddy now all of a sudden though? Because he proved that he's more than just a game manager. He made some ****ing incredible throws against the Chargers last week. The back shoulder Maclin throw, the Maclin throw where Jeremy was almost killed, The Spencer Ware throws. Twice he hit him downfield (like, way more than 8 yards!), and then finally the Kelce throws.

People can give Spencer Ware a lot of credit, he is deserving of it after the monster game he had. Make no mistake about it though, Alexander Douglas Smith personally put this team on his back and willed them to victory. 1 play at a time. 1 throw at a time. He's a leader, and it reflected in the locker room after that game. They trust Alex now. They trust that he has what it takes to will them to victory in any game.

Alex isn't just a game manager anymore. He's a game changer, and a leader. This team could go 6-10 this year and I'll say the same thing. He has the ability and he's proven it. Now let's see where they go with it. I'm officially a YUGE Alex fan. What do you think? I'll take your comments off air.

saphojunkie · 09-17-2016, 07:59 PM

Whoa... Nobody who wins 3 Super Bowls is a jag.

My point is that you can't bemoan Alex Smiths stats as empirical evidence of his suckage and then say Aikman is above reproach when he had Terrible stats his entire career.

This is what happens when you want to speak in absolutes and be able to quantify what is inherently unquantifiable.

Hammock Parties · 09-17-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

And since Aikmans stats are DOG SHIT -

For five years he was in the top 10 in YPA, completion percentage and wins.

The Cowboys were either second or third in total offense for four consecutive years during this time period.

Even though they had an elite rushing attack and defense, they were still in the top 10 in passing 3 of those 5 years, and in the top half in the other two.

He completed SIXTY NINE PERCENT of his passes one year, in an era where that was unheard of. Where 60 percent was considered elite.

And in the playoffs, when he absolutely had to show up during those Super Bowls, he was phenomenal. He had a quarterback rating over 100 in EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME save one during three Super Bowl years.

His playoff game averages during those runs:

244 yards, 1.8 TDs, 0.44 INT.

That might not SEEM like much compared to today, but the league leaders in passing yards and passing TDs averaged 252 yards per game and 1.8 TDs per game in 1993.

So people that just look at aggregate stats and compare them to the modern era are ****ing ignorant.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09-17-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

This went about how I expected it to

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Clay deserves credit on this one. How the **** can you compare a guy to Troy Aikman when the most TDs he's thrown in a season is 23 and that's the ONLY time he's thrown over twenty? When his highest yardage total is less than 3,500?!!

How the **** can you compare a guy to Troy Aikman when career TD to Int ratio is 165-141?!!

Oh, because all of those stats BELONG TO TROY AIKMAN.

Boy he sure raped defenses.

**TinyEvel** · 09-17-2016, 08:06 PM

"I will follow him."

**Baby Lee** · 09-17-2016, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel

"I will follow him."

**jjchieffan** · 09-17-2016, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway

For five years he was in the top 10 in YPA, completion percentage and wins.

The Cowboys were either second or third in total offense for four consecutive years during this time period.

Even though they had an elite rushing attack and defense, they were still in the top 10 in passing 3 of those 5 years, and in the top half in the other two.

He completed SIXTY NINE PERCENT of his passes one year, in an era where that was unheard of. Where 60 percent was considered elite.

And in the playoffs, when he absolutely had to show up during those Super Bowls, he was phenomenal. He had a quarterback rating over 100 in EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME save one during three Super Bowl years.

His playoff game averages during those runs:

244 yards, 1.8 TDs, 0.44 INT.

That might not SEEM like much compared to today, but the league leaders in passing yards and passing TDs averaged 252 yards per game and 1.8 TDs per game in 1993.

So people that just look at aggregate stats and compare them to the modern era are ****ing ignorant.

Yeah. And when he was hurt, Jason Garrett and whoever else was backing him up put up just as good of numbers. It wasn't him. It was the system and the weapons and the line. What happened when Enmity Smith held out to start the 93 (I think) season? They lost until he came back. If Aikman was all you think he was, he could've won without him. Brady would have. Peyton would have. Rodgers would have. But not Troy JAG Aikman.

Hammock Parties · 09-17-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel

"I will follow him."

in a way i did...followed him right to Chiefsplanet

as a young lad troy awakened an intense appreciation deep within me for franchise quarterback play, and football in general

it was because of Troy's daring do that I discovered Joe Montana...emboldened by this I became latched to the Chiefs franchise

eight years later...i typed "chiefs forum" into google and began a vision quest to find another franchise QB...the kind i only briefly flirted with in my youth

someday my prince will come...again

MTG#10 · 09-17-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

idiot

Yes, you are if you disagree.

KChiefs1 · 09-17-2016, 08:35 PM

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Hammock Parties · 09-17-2016, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

And when he was hurt, Jason Garrett and whoever else was backing him up put up just as good of numbers.

Steve Beuerlein completed a pathetic 49 percent of his passes in relief of Troy in 1991.

Bernie Kosar lost his only start the following year, and Jason Garrett threw for all of 61 yards in another game.

Granted the following year Rodney Peete and Jason Garrett did well, but your statement is not true.

Coochie liquor · 09-17-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

This is ****ing epic!

It really is. It was a prophecy, foretold mear moments before the final unraveling. Alex was quoting Kid Rock, " what you hoes wanna do, one at a time or all at once I'll still roll through your whole crew!!"

**jjchieffan** · 09-17-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway

in a way i did...followed him right to Chiefsplanet

as a young imbecile, I was didn't know anything about football, so I jumped on the Cowboys bandwagon. I saw Jimmy Johnson's system make Aikman look good and it awakened an intense appreciation deep within me for quarterback play that I didn't understand. That has carried over to cause my insane football takes to this day.

it was because of my ignorance that I worshipped Aikman and eventually I discovered Joe Montana...emboldened by this became latched to the Chiefs franchise

eight years later...i typed "chiefs forum" into google and began a vision quest to find another franchise QB...the kind i only briefly flirted with in my youth

someday Alex Smith will be my prince

FYP

Chief Roundup · 09-17-2016, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Yes, you are if you disagree.

Stats will tell you that Green did less with far more.

ViperVisor · 09-17-2016, 08:55 PM

Aikman
Age 30-34

More or less prime years for a QB.

But from 1996-2000 Troy Aikman's rank of QBs with 1000+ passes...
19th in Passer Rating out of 31 qualifiers.

Direckshun · 09-17-2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway

in a way i did...followed him right to Chiefsplanet

as a young lad troy awakened an intense appreciation deep within me for franchise quarterback play, and football in general

it was because of Troy's daring do that I discovered Joe Montana...emboldened by this I became latched to the Chiefs franchise

eight years later...i typed "chiefs forum" into google and began a vision quest to find another franchise QB...the kind i only briefly flirted with in my youth

someday my prince will come...again

i read somewhere he gay

09-17-2016, 10:44 AM
Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	Alexander Douglas Smith: 2016 We wouldn't we want to roll out another Alex Smith thread?!?!? Listen, for the Clay haters, this will probably be the thread that gets him banned. He can't help himself, right? Let's go!!! First off, as many of you know, I have been very critical of Alexander Douglas Smith. Wasn't happy with the trade, HATED the extension, and have burned him to the ground from the beginning. So **ing sick of the retread QB's. So, that said Alex Smith is my Daddy. I mean, I just have to own that at this point. Here's why. He's never had continuity in a system. That guy had a new offensive coordinator just about every year until Jim Harbaugh showed up. And he flashed a little bit. That said, it sure looks like San Fran traded their best QB to us in favor of some douche that's starting some thing all over the league, while riding the bench to a guy named Blaine Gabbert. Alex is now in his 4th year of the same system and it's showing. He's getting better. Why is he my daddy now all of a sudden though? Because he proved that he's more than just a game manager. He made some *ing incredible throws against the Chargers last week. The back shoulder Maclin throw, the Maclin throw where Jeremy was almost killed, The Spencer Ware throws. Twice he hit him downfield (like, way more than 8 yards!), and then finally the Kelce throws. People can give Spencer Ware a lot of credit, he is deserving of it after the monster game he had. Make no mistake about it though, Alexander Douglas Smith personally* put this team on his back and willed them to victory. 1 play at a time. 1 throw at a time. He's a leader, and it reflected in the locker room after that game. They trust Alex now. They trust that he has what it takes to will them to victory in any game. Alex isn't just a game manager anymore. He's a game changer, and a leader. This team could go 6-10 this year and I'll say the same thing. He has the ability and he's proven it. Now let's see where they go with it. I'm officially a YUGE Alex fan. What do you think? I'll take your comments off air.
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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $2246550	Whoa... Nobody who wins 3 Super Bowls is a jag. My point is that you can't bemoan Alex Smiths stats as empirical evidence of his suckage and then say Aikman is above reproach when he had Terrible stats his entire career. This is what happens when you want to speak in absolutes and be able to quantify what is inherently unquantifiable.
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ViperVisor Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10019798	Aikman Age 30-34 More or less prime years for a QB. But from 1996-2000 Troy Aikman's rank of QBs with 1000+ passes... 19th in Passer Rating out of 31 qualifiers.
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