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Old 08-12-2016, 09:15 AM  
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Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion
The 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 include Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico and Northern Illinois, sources said.

http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion


Of the schools not listed by ESPN, Dallas sports writer speculates
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:06 PM   #61
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this is really unfortunate. the fact no one wanted notre dame in the big 12. even go for another ohio valley school. something in the region of corn fields and gun shots.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:18 AM   #62
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Memo tells Big 12 officials to say decision to decline expansion was unanimous

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Old 10-19-2016, 08:25 AM   #63
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As a fan, I want them to expand. But as a school, you will likely earn LESS with any team you can bring to the conference. Bringing in even BYU and Cincy would dilute the per team revenue, even if marginally.

Now, if you could get say Arizona State and Arizona then that probably isn't the case. I really think those two schools are players in the next realignment for the Big 12 to possibly poach. Big 12 schools make waaay more than Pac 12 schools. Central time zone is a benefit to TV revenue.

Of course when everyone goes to ROKU or Chromecast etc and games are being cast on social media then teams like Rutgers in the Big 10 and some Florida team in the ACC don't really add much value. I would think at that point realignment becomes pretty meaningless because it would be easier for a given school to profit off of their own brand. While profiting off of their own brand is good for the school, it is damaging to the ecology of big boy televised college sports in general. Going the way of Big 12 Tier 3 revenue for all schools and having your own online channel is making it more of a niche thing.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:27 AM   #64
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AZ would never ever ever ever ever leave the west coast for any reason period, they are attached at the hip to California.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:29 AM   #65
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AZ would never ever ever ever ever leave the west coast for any reason period, they are attached at the hip to California.
I think it's unlikely, but possible. Arizona probably has closer ties to Texas and Oklahoma culturally as well.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:36 AM   #66
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Arizona is mini CA, and Phoenix is an LA wannabe, with prob 1/4 their population now having come from LA. They have no connection at all to Texas or Oklahoma, zero.


And the idea they'd be ok playing games in Ames or Mancrappin is pretty hilarious. They were pissed when Colorado and Utah came in.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:41 AM   #67
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Not surprised, rumors have been around Norman for awhile that Boren changed his mind and was going to nix the expansion stuff....

Everyone down here knows Boren is running the show in the Big 12... Its common knowledge.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:47 AM   #68
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Not surprised, rumors have been around Norman for awhile that Boren changed his mind and was going to nix the expansion stuff....

Everyone down here knows Boren is running the show in the Big 12... Its common knowledge.
I'm sure the folks in Oklahoma believe that, yes
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Memo tells Big 12 officials to say decision to decline expansion was unanimous

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Do those guys even know what they're talking about? Spent millions on a presentation. BS!
But I agree that it really screws the conference when it comes to the football playoffs.
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Not surprised, rumors have been around Norman for awhile that Boren changed his mind and was going to nix the expansion stuff....

Everyone down here knows Boren is running the show in the Big 12... Its common knowledge.
Who is Boren?
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:55 AM   #71
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:12 AM   #72
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Oh well, I'm mentally prepared to be part of the Mountain MidWest Conference soon enough.
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Keitzman says the Big 12 is raking in the dough.

Why expand?
Because there's a decent chance that an undefeated Baylor or WVU squad STILL doesn't make it into the playoffs. It's not a given that they wouldn't, but it's possible.

That's not the case for any of the other Power 5 conferences.

If you can go undefeated in a power conference and not make the playoffs, that puts you closer to the MAC than the SEC. And this little clown show of theirs - the one that cost a whole bunch of schools hundreds of thousands of dollars each for absolutely nothing - is going to do nothing to engender goodwill for the rudderless ship that is the Big 12.

It's just astonishingly poorly run.
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Because there's a decent chance that an undefeated Baylor or WVU squad STILL doesn't make it into the playoffs. It's not a given that they wouldn't, but it's possible.

That's not the case for any of the other Power 5 conferences.

If you can go undefeated in a power conference and not make the playoffs, that puts you closer to the MAC than the SEC. And this little clown show of theirs - the one that cost a whole bunch of schools hundreds of thousands of dollars each for absolutely nothing - is going to do nothing to engender goodwill for the rudderless ship that is the Big 12.

It's just astonishingly poorly run.
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They don't care about making a playoff or anything. It's about money. Follow the money.

And boren is a pos
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