Chiefs Andy Reid shuts down your Chiefs QB controversy talk - Page 13

oaklandhater · 10-31-2016, 02:30 PM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...ntroversy-talk

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by Joel Thorman Oct 31, 2016, 2:44p

You know Andy Reid was going to stand by Alex Smith and that’s what he did on Monday when facing the press. Reid has been doing this for a loooong time so he let reporters have their fun for a few minutes and then he shut down any talk of Nick Foles playing in front of a healthy Alex Smith. Will it work? I guess it depends on how well Foles plays this weekend ... if he plays this weekend since the Chiefs doctors contend Alex actually doesn’t have a concussion.

Check out this exchange between Reid and reporters this afternoon.

Q: You were asked whether you had to cut back the game plan when Foles came in and you said no. Did he allow you to expand the game plan, maybe do some things that you couldn’t do with Smith?

Reid: No. Alex, I’m not sure we realize how good he is. We’ve opened this thing up further than maybe we’ve ever opened it up. He does a tremendous job. It’s a shame he didn’t have a chance to finish off the game plan because he would’ve had a ton of success with it. Not to take anything away from Nick. We didn’t have to cut a thing out for Nick coming in. That was a win-win for both guys. To think one would’ve done better than the other, I don’t believe that. If Alex would’ve been in, we would’ve done the same thing.

Q: You guys his four passes of 30 yards down the field. That’s unusual for you guys. Was that because the way the game was going or because of who was at quarterback?

Reid: I think it was part of the plan. That was all in the game plan. They would’ve been called. They were right on the first 15. They were coming up so whether it was Alex in there or Nick they were coming up. A couple of them formation wise, there was a little confusion on the formation and guys popped open.

Q: Does Foles give you more capability in that area?

Reid: No, I’m not even sure I like the way you’re going with this. Alex can do all the things that need to be done in this offense and do them at a Pro Bowl-caliber level.

Q: Is he your quarterback when he’s healthy then?

/death stare

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-01-2016, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Clay always points out how he hated Alex ever since the trade, but he sure doesn't bring up the 2nd part.

"And wanted to draft Geno Smith 1st overall"

Reerun_KC · 11-01-2016, 08:15 AM

When Foles , cousins and ? ( Can't remember name ) I was hot and heavy on those three for sure.

What the hell is that 3rd guys name.

Danguardace · 11-01-2016, 08:32 AM

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BigBeauford · 11-01-2016, 08:36 AM

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That article hurts my soul to read.

Reerun_KC · 11-01-2016, 08:50 AM

After reading that article, Im going to go cry for awhile.

Danguardace · 11-01-2016, 08:51 AM

I basically want a second opinion/viewing so hope Foles starts on Sunday.

If he plays in similar fashion this week Andy can protect Smith all he wants he has some thinking to do.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

16 x 1.5 is 24. I believe that 27 TD's in 16 games is better than 1.5 TD per game. I didn't even have to look it up. you contradicted yourself in the same thread.

Talking regular season, dude. Try to keep up.

Reerun_KC · 11-01-2016, 11:27 AM

I've stopped crying. Just sniffling right now.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2016, 11:29 AM

holy...****ing...shit

oaklandhater · 11-01-2016, 12:42 PM

How pathologically conservative is Chiefs QB Alex Smith as a passer? In 48 snaps of action in relief of Smith against the Colts, Nick Foles has half as many completions on deep passes (20+ air yards), more than half as many yards, and the same number of touchdowns (one) as Smith has managed over the entire season to date.

Holy hell I didn't even know it was that bad

But nah guys he wins right stupidest counter argument to smith ever.

I want to see sandy and black bob defend this ?

Reerun_KC · 11-01-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

How pathologically conservative is Chiefs QB Alex Smith as a passer? In 48 snaps of action in relief of Smith against the Colts, Nick Foles has half as many completions on deep passes (20+ air yards), more than half as many yards, and the same number of touchdowns (one) as Smith has managed over the entire season to date.

Holy hell I didn't even know it was that bad

But nah guys he wins right stupidest counter argument to smith ever.

I want to see sandy and black bob defend this ?

He does win and wins a lot, but not in shoot outs or where he is required to make the plays you expect of an NFL level QB...

His is a safe and reliable option for the regular season (lots of low scoring wins) and a liability in the playoffs (where teams force you to score).

Our lack of 2 min offense and the ability to score quickly when needed is usually our undoing.

15 high school level bubble screens wont cut in when you're down to the final 6-8 teams in the playoffs.

**Lzen** · 11-01-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace

I basically want a second opinion/viewing so hope Foles starts on Sunday.

If he plays in similar fashion this week Andy can protect Smith all he wants he has some thinking to do.

This is a good point. I was thinking Foles looked great against the Colts but it was the Colts. If he can produce like that over a few games we definitely have a QB controversy. Don't know if we will get that chance, though.

**Lzen** · 11-01-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

He does win and wins a lot, but not in shoot outs or where he is required to make the plays you expect of an NFL level QB...

His is a safe and reliable option for the regular season (lots of low scoring wins) and a liability in the playoffs (where teams force you to score).

Our lack of 2 min offense and the ability to score quickly when needed is usually our undoing.

15 high school level bubble screens wont cut in when you're down to the final 6-8 teams in the playoffs.

His teams scored 44 against the Colts, 30 against the Texans, and 20 against the Patriots. Not sure where you get those numbers. Alex would be 2-1 in the playoffs as a Chiefs QB if not for terrible defense and injuries which are both out of control.

I really don't understand why we can't have a discussion on these QBs without it turning into a bunch of hyperbole from both sides.

BigCatDaddy · 11-01-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace

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Andy just took a swift kick to the nuts.

In58men · 11-01-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You can't predict the outcome of an unknown player, but you sure can with somebody that has 8 years under their belt.

Oh yeah, let's not forget the Smitty was once beat by Shaun Hill

Didn't we all get hyped for Jonathan Baldwin? You never know what you'll get in the draft.

10-31-2016, 02:30 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5888993	Andy Reid shuts down your Chiefs QB controversy talk http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...ntroversy-talk 55 by Joel Thorman Oct 31, 2016, 2:44p You know Andy Reid was going to stand by Alex Smith and that’s what he did on Monday when facing the press. Reid has been doing this for a loooong time so he let reporters have their fun for a few minutes and then he shut down any talk of Nick Foles playing in front of a healthy Alex Smith. Will it work? I guess it depends on how well Foles plays this weekend ... if he plays this weekend since the Chiefs doctors contend Alex actually doesn’t have a concussion. Check out this exchange between Reid and reporters this afternoon. Q: You were asked whether you had to cut back the game plan when Foles came in and you said no. Did he allow you to expand the game plan, maybe do some things that you couldn’t do with Smith? Reid: No. Alex, I’m not sure we realize how good he is. We’ve opened this thing up further than maybe we’ve ever opened it up. He does a tremendous job. It’s a shame he didn’t have a chance to finish off the game plan because he would’ve had a ton of success with it. Not to take anything away from Nick. We didn’t have to cut a thing out for Nick coming in. That was a win-win for both guys. To think one would’ve done better than the other, I don’t believe that. If Alex would’ve been in, we would’ve done the same thing. Q: You guys his four passes of 30 yards down the field. That’s unusual for you guys. Was that because the way the game was going or because of who was at quarterback? Reid: I think it was part of the plan. That was all in the game plan. They would’ve been called. They were right on the first 15. They were coming up so whether it was Alex in there or Nick they were coming up. A couple of them formation wise, there was a little confusion on the formation and guys popped open. Q: Does Foles give you more capability in that area? Reid: No, I’m not even sure I like the way you’re going with this. Alex can do all the things that need to be done in this offense and do them at a Pro Bowl-caliber level. Q: Is he your quarterback when he’s healthy then? /death stare
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oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5888993	How pathologically conservative is Chiefs QB Alex Smith as a passer? In 48 snaps of action in relief of Smith against the Colts, Nick Foles has half as many completions on deep passes (20+ air yards), more than half as many yards, and the same number of touchdowns (one) as Smith has managed over the entire season to date. Holy hell I didn't even know it was that bad But nah guys he wins right stupidest counter argument to smith ever. I want to see sandy and black bob defend this ? Last edited by oaklandhater; 11-01-2016 at 12:48 PM..
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