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[BleedingRed]

My idea is the Arnold and Benard are one in the same, follow my logic here.

Arnold seems to be an amazing coder as compared to ford. Ford for year programmed the Hosts with "Gates" in their CPU's (brains) to keep Arnold code at bay. Yet the more he programmed them to be life like the more Arnold code has broken out. (at least this is what I think ford thinks)

Benard is Arnold in the sense that his conciseness was downloaded into Benard. And Benard has been subconsciously programming/sending information to his older units 47 (possibly)

This explains why Benard either killed or captured his girl asst. when she found out someone was sending information out of the park. Benard AKA Arnold, knew he could use Thersa as a cover for his real goal of updating these hosts and continuing his work to develop AI.

Ford does not know that Benard has been doing this subconsciously because Benard doesn't know. Ford was telling the truth to Benard when he said hes never made him do something like this before. Because it wasn't him, it was Arnold.

Ford knows something is going on with these older units, yet they are older models made by Arnold so they cannot be tracked. He knows they exist, and are causing problems. So he is developing a narritive to find "Wyatte", and the other "Hosts" that have evolved. (hints why they don't die when shot by other hosts)

Little does he know but Mavee = Wyatte, and her "Army" is the other Host's that Arnold made with updated Code provided by Benard/Arnold so that Ford can not track or control them.

Crazy I know, what do you think?

[bowener]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

My idea is the Arnold and Benard are one in the same, follow my logic here.

Arnold seems to be an amazing coder as compared to ford. Ford for year programmed the Hosts with "Gates" in their CPU's (brains) to keep Arnold code at bay. Yet the more he programmed them to be life like the more Arnold code has broken out. (at least this is what I think ford thinks)

Benard is Arnold in the sense that his conciseness was downloaded into Benard. And Benard has been subconsciously programming/sending information to his older units 47 (possibly)

This explains why Benard either killed or captured his girl asst. when she found out someone was sending information out of the park. Benard AKA Arnold, knew he could use Thersa as a cover for his real goal of updating these hosts and continuing his work to develop AI.

Ford does not know that Benard has been doing this subconsciously because Benard doesn't know. Ford was telling the truth to Benard when he said hes never made him do something like this before. Because it wasn't him, it was Arnold.

Ford knows something is going on with these older units, yet they are older models made by Arnold so they cannot be tracked. He knows they exist, and are causing problems. So he is developing a narritive to find "Wyatte", and the other "Hosts" that have evolved. (hints why they don't die when shot by other hosts)

Little does he know but Mavee = Wyatte, and her "Army" is the other Host's that Arnold made with updated Code provided by Benard/Arnold so that Ford can not track or control them.

Crazy I know, what do you think?

I think Maeve is in the present time, and is one of Arnold's originals possessing unique coding that aids the emergence of sentient thought. I think she is going to wreck the park. I think Dolores is Wyatt in the present (and has been part of a story loop all along... just 30 years ago). The Wyatt story is based on a real event (according to Ford when programming present day Teddy).

Rest of thoughts in spoiler.

Spoiler!

I think Dolores is Wyatt. I think she acted on her own to wipe out that picturesque town (30 years ago) either by her own actions (she gained sentience and realized they are all machines), and hence why she was shooting herself in the head before William stopped her, or at the behest of Arnold to stop Ford from doing something/making the machines into toys for entertainment instead of something bigger.

I think William/Dolores story is 30 years in the past, and that William is possibly the black hat played by Harris (present day). I think William's character arc is from good guy to bad guy, and that he found his true self inside the park, and it is the only place he can be himself. Outside the park he dives into his work/empire, but has become nearly robotic himself, alienating his family and mentally abusing them (true self is leaking out). I am curious what he does for a living. [In the first episode he says a big incident happened 30 years ago in the park btw]

When black hat and Dolores interact (when Dolores is in her farm girl loop in the early episodes) and she runs away, I don't think we have seen her since or we do, but she is stuck reliving the past until she shows up as Wyatt in the new story line created by Ford. Dolores will be the worthy adversary that our villain is seeking/deserves.

Something else that has bothered me, and so I looked online today, but flies. Present day has flies, and the past doesn't. Or it seems to be working that way. However, my subtitles still say "flies buzzing" even though there aren't any on screen.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by bowener

I think Maeve is in the present time, and is one of Arnold's originals possessing unique coding that aids the emergence of sentient thought. I think she is going to wreck the park. I think Dolores is Wyatt in the present (and has been part of a story loop all along... just 30 years ago). The Wyatt story is based on a real event (according to Ford when programming present day Teddy).

Rest of thoughts in spoiler.

Spoiler!

I think Dolores is Wyatt. I think she acted on her own to wipe out that picturesque town (30 years ago) either by her own actions (she gained sentience and realized they are all machines), and hence why she was shooting herself in the head before William stopped her, or at the behest of Arnold to stop Ford from doing something/making the machines into toys for entertainment instead of something bigger.

I think William/Dolores story is 30 years in the past, and that William is possibly the black hat played by Harris (present day). I think William's character arc is from good guy to bad guy, and that he found his true self inside the park, and it is the only place he can be himself. Outside the park he dives into his work/empire, but has become nearly robotic himself, alienating his family and mentally abusing them (true self is leaking out). I am curious what he does for a living. [In the first episode he says a big incident happened 30 years ago in the park btw]

When black hat and Dolores interact (when Dolores is in her farm girl loop in the early episodes) and she runs away, I don't think we have seen her since or we do, but she is stuck reliving the past until she shows up as Wyatt in the new story line created by Ford. Dolores will be the worthy adversary that our villain is seeking/deserves.

Something else that has bothered me, and so I looked online today, but flies. Present day has flies, and the past doesn't. Or it seems to be working that way. However, my subtitles still say "flies buzzing" even though there aren't any on screen.

I like your ideas but I don't think the show has to do multiple time periods to make it make sense. To me the only compelling reason to do multiple time periods is to make someone from the 'present' be the same character as someone from the 'past', like William-> the MiB. I'd rather they develop William into an interesting character on his own. I want to see them integrate everything and I don't think it would be all that hard. Dolores is obviously having flashbacks at the little town. It's the town Ford described in his own 'flashback' narrative. But the scene ended with them standing in front of the same steeple that older Ford looks at.

The fun thing is that there a bunch of scenes that can be interpreted in different ways. So far (and maybe I missed some) the Dolores flashbacks happen after they zoom in on her face and then spin around revealing a changed environment. I think those are events that happened well before she met William, and led up to her interacting with the MiB when he was a young man. I can see the fun though in the idea of William->MiB->Teddy is created to replace white hat William. I like the idea of some of the hosts' loops being built around events that happened in the past when they interacted with previous guests.