As a ref, how can you possibly make that call??

[TripleThreat]

Besides all the bullshit, How, as a ref, can you make that call in a playoff game. Team is trailing by 2, going for a 2pnt conversion, and you call a holding call, something both teams have been doing all game.. if youve been calling them all game, sure call it, but you werent, and havent been. How could you not see the hold did not affect the outcome of the play? By the time the "hold" even occured which was more of harrison just deciding to flail to the ground like a little bitch, the ball was WELL out of smiths hands and going to the endzone at the point of this "hold"... So again, as a ref, how can you not look at the hold, then look at Smith and see the hold wouldve not affected the outcome of the play? Its BULL SHIT to make that call in a situation like that... And btw, this is the same crew working the superbowl.

[dallaschiefsfan]

None of the arguments matter either way. The NFL product is broke. Viewership is down. Let the declining interest in the fixed, WWE-life NFL speak the volumes needed. Maybe they'll eventually recognize that they can't sustain a sport with a handful of fan-bases.

Never been so disinterested in this "sport".

So glad the Royals have given Kansas City a championship and solid baseball the past few years. 28 days until pitchers and catchers report.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Lsst year's Super Farce was the blow that killed the NFL. We are just beginning to watch them bleed out.

[Oskie]

Originally Posted by Iczer

Watch the replay again. Harrison shoots outside quick and Fisher is just leading him out, it was a good play. Then watch again and see that Harrison loses his footing and falls.

If that's a hold then they better be calling a hold on every play.

Get off your high horse.

"just leading him out" with his arm extended across Harrison's chest, hand clearly gripping his far shoulder.

It's a hold. It's a hold every time. Every single time.

What's the ref supposed to do there? Swallow the flag?

If Hali had been held like that, in that situation, you'd be whining and bitching for the flag.

[DTHOF]

I know it has been mentioned but I have seen Tamba get that treatment 100s of times with no call. It is fixed.

Who wants the sorry ass mid-western Chiefs when you have a possible match up of the two AFC golden boys.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by Oskie

"just leading him out" with his arm extended across Harrison's chest, hand clearly gripping his far shoulder.

It's a hold. It's a hold every time. Every single time.

What's the ref supposed to do there? Swallow the flag?

If Hali had been held like that, in that situation, you'd be whining and bitching for the flag.

I think it has more to do with the timing of the flag. You could have probably called 50 other holds in that game by either team but why the flag just in that instance?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Oskie

"just leading him out" with his arm extended across Harrison's chest, hand clearly gripping his far shoulder.

It's a hold. It's a hold every time. Every single time.

What's the ref supposed to do there? Swallow the flag?

If Hali had been held like that, in that situation, you'd be whining and bitching for the flag.

We spent 60 minutes watching blatant holds NOT be called you reerun. It was the ONLY one called and it came in the game's buggest moment. Completely ruins any sense of competetive balance.

[notorious]

Spread was in danger.

That's why you make that call.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

If the blatant hold was called on Pitts final 3rd down THEN nobody would have a fair right to bitch. You can't call one and let the other stand.

[Oskie]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think it has more to do with the timing of the flag. You could have probably called 50 other holds in that game by either team but why the flag just in that instance?

Because the ref saw it, and it was obvious?

Yeah, "holding happens on every play of every game." Fine. Much of that is internal to the line and not out in the open.

Fisher is a scrub, a total bum, and he got wasted on that play. His only chance was to hold, but he couldn't even do that right.

THAT is why it was called "in that situation." Because it was too obvious not to call it.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

The Steelers were holding on the last 3rd down conversion to get the 1st down and run the clock out. Didn't get called.

Take your pick(s) from the NFL's regular Monday menu...

"But his arm was around him when the 38-year-old we lathered about all night, prolly because he made Houston look like a weakling, fell down, right on cue"

"Ya can't see um all" [exit stage left]

"Officiating is a tough job"

"Those others you showed us didn't affect those plays in any way" [cough cough]

"But Kelce was mean"

"Ya gotta let them play" [on certain plays]

"It didn't affect the outcome of the game, so there's that"

"The Steelers have better optics, you know that"

"We don't take questions about officiating"

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

If the blatant hold was called on Pitts final 3rd down THEN nobody would have a fair right to bitch. You can't call one and let the other stand.

Hell Peeg, I said this before that 3rd down.


The entire world knew there was no way they would call a hold on that 3rd down, which is how it should have been for the 2 point conversion.

[Oskie]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

We spent 60 minutes watching blatant holds NOT be called you reerun. It was the ONLY one called and it came in the game's buggest moment. Completely ruins any sense of competetive balance.

Aw muffin. Uncalled holds ONLY happen to KC, huh?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Oskie

Because the ref saw it, and it was obvious?

Yeah, "holding happens on every play of every game." Fine. Much of that is internal to the line and not out in the open.

Fisher is a scrub, a total bum, and he got wasted on that play. His only chance was to hold, but he couldn't even do that right.

THAT is why it was called "in that situation." Because it was too obvious not to call it.

Ah you are a Stooler that explains it

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Oskie

"just leading him out" with his arm extended across Harrison's chest, hand clearly gripping his far shoulder.

It's a hold. It's a hold every time. Every single time.

What's the ref supposed to do there? Swallow the flag?

If Hali had been held like that, in that situation, you'd be whining and bitching for the flag.

I think that, going strictly by the rules, holding could be called on nearly every single play. But for the refs to break from what had been the tone of the game that they had set, ON THAT PLAY, and to take the tying points away, is mind-boggling. There were worse holds (literal bear hugs) that weren't called on the Steelers OL.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Oskie

Because the ref saw it, and it was obvious?

Yeah, "holding happens on every play of every game." Fine. Much of that is internal to the line and not out in the open.

Fisher is a scrub, a total bum, and he got wasted on that play. His only chance was to hold, but he couldn't even do that right.

THAT is why it was called "in that situation." Because it was too obvious not to call it.

Certainly the others were less obvious, right?



Is this where you'll go with the "ya can't see them all" of the "ya gotta let them play" or the "Kelce doesn't get calls" excuses?