Chiefs It's time to move on from Alex Smith. - Page 20

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-15-2017, 10:40 PM

He wasn't even the main reason we lost. We're just never gonna win a Super Bowl with him. It's time.

The two best QBs in the AFC are left to play for the right to play in the Super Bowl. Not shocking.

Every team that has won their playoff matchup has had the better QB. Unless you have an elite defense the better QB is more often than not gonna win the matchup. It's not rocket science.

Time to draft one high. Finally.

ChiefsCountry · 01-16-2017, 03:58 PM

Hopefully Alex Smith takes moped driving lessons from Percy Snow in the offseason.

Hammock Parties · 01-16-2017, 04:01 PM

These people hoping he's going to be gone will be disappointed.

The minute the Chiefs won the division he was guaranteed to return.

Just don't give him another contract.

The last thing this fan base needs to debate over is whether 35-year old Alex Smith can win a Super Bowl.

"He can still scramble a little."

"Just need to lean on the running game."

"D needs to step up."

Christ.

kcpasco · 01-16-2017, 04:03 PM

Smith is going to get an extension. Just go ahead and accept that reality because it's happening.

bricks · 01-16-2017, 04:09 PM

I agree with the title of this thread plus I think the Chiefs should move on from Andy Reid and Bob Sutton.

I want a new regime in place that's young and will provide sound overall coaching with good player development, good game planning and sound in game decision making/adjustments.

I'm convinced Chiefs will never win with Andy Reid, Alex Smith and Bob Sutton. They're just too damn conservative and lack logic. How can any franchise win anything when it's leaders are fear dominant and ignorant? Fear and ignorance are the enemy of success and the Chiefs reek of that!

Draft and develop a quarterback and get a new coaching regime with smarts and balls.

The NFL today guys is about finding that right QB-coach chemistry. Why do you think the Patriots win all the time? Because they got the best QB-coach chemistry that no other franchise or team could match.

We just have to accept that they're better and until Brady-Belicheck are gone, Chiefs ain't winning. The strategy stated above, is to prepare this team 3, 4 years ahead from now.

*Imo, the Chiefs have a core. They should keep that intact and re-sign guys like Berry, Poe, DJ. Pittsburgh proves that keeping your team nucleus intact is a remedy for success. Chiefs should follow that sort of bluebrint. And yeah meanwhile explore and go through that journey of finding that franchise QB via draft and possibly find that young upcoming coach through the collegiate ranks that will someday make an excellent coach in the NFL? I think this is the Chiefs best option for success. Question is, is this franchise capable of being that schrewd by finding those hidden gems? I don't have the confidence or belief that they are.

Hammock Parties · 01-16-2017, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco

Smith is going to get an extension. Just go ahead and accept that reality because it's happening.

My feeling is that he won't. Reid was more inclined to trade McNabb than extend him when it was clear he was done as an NFL starter.

Smith toed that line this year. Usually when NFL QBs are about ready to fall off a cliff, a small decline is followed by a precipitous drop the next season. Doesn't always happen to guys at the same age. Some can stave it off til their late 30s, others it happens around 33/34.

We saw a drop in TDs, a major drop in rushing yards, an uptick in turnovers, and two more concussions throw into the mix.

33-year old Alex, a step slower, a tick more cautious, thinking more of his health and family than glory and football....it's coming.

Reid will see the writing on the wall and move on. Especially with a QB far less productive than McNabb ever was.

ToxSocks · 01-16-2017, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bricks

I agree with the title of this thread plus I think the Chiefs should move on from Andy Reid and Bob Sutton.

I want a new regime in place that's young and will provide sound overall coaching with good player development, good game planning and sound in game decision making/adjustments.

I'm convinced Chiefs will never win with Andy Reid, Alex Smith and Bob Sutton. They're just too damn conservative and lack logic. How can any franchise win anything when it's leaders are fear dominant and ignorant? Fear and ignorance are the enemy of success and the Chiefs reek of that!

Draft and develop a quarterback and get a new coaching regime with smarts and balls.

The NFL today guys is about finding that right QB-coach chemistry. Why do you think the Patriots win all the time? Because they got the best QB-coach chemistry that no other franchise or team could match.

We just have to accept that they're better and until Brady-Belicheck are gone, Chiefs ain't winning. The strategy stated above, is to prepare this team 3, 4 years ahead from now.

*Imo, the Chiefs have a core. They should keep that intact and resign guys like Berry, Poe, DJ. Pittsburgh proves that keeping your team nucleus intact is a remedy for success. Chiefs should follow that sort of bluebrint. And yeah meanwhile explore and go through that journey of finding that franchise QB via draft and possibly find that young upcoming coach through the collegiate ranks that will someday make an excellent coach in the NFL? I think this is the Chiefs best option for success. Question is, is this franchise capable of being that schrewd by finding those hidden gems? I don't have the confidence or belief that they are.

Emotional post not grounded in logic or evidence.

Alex Smith wasn't the issue last night. Neither was Reid. Neither was Sutton. The Chiefs couldn't run the ball and they couldn't stop the run. No amount of scheming is going to change that.

You can scheme and coach all you want, but you have to win your 1v1 battles. If you can't do that nothing else matters. Players have to play.

Kelce has to catch the ****ing ball.
Poe and the interior line can't get pushed back off the snap.
Jah Reid can't get blown past and beaten badly like that.
West can't drop the ball while running.

The O-line hasn't won the battle up front in the running game all ****ing season.

ToxSocks · 01-16-2017, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

My feeling is that he won't. Reid was more inclined to trade McNabb than extend him when it was clear he was done as an NFL starter.

Smith toed that line this year. Usually when NFL QBs are about ready to fall off a cliff, a small decline is followed by a precipitous drop the next season. Doesn't always happen to guys at the same age. Some can stave it off til their late 30s, others it happens around 33/34.

We saw a drop in TDs, a major drop in rushing yards, an uptick in turnovers, and two more concussions throw into the mix.

33-year old Alex, a step slower, a tick more cautious, thinking more of his health and family than glory and football....it's coming.

Reid will see the writing on the wall and move on. Especially with a QB far less productive than McNabb ever was.

I agree. Dorsey has proven that he knows talent. Reid has proven that he'll praise and praise and praise his Qb to the media, but has never been shy about making a change.

They haven't extended Smith yet. He's now on a prove it deal.

ToxSocks · 01-16-2017, 04:18 PM

The Steelers made the Chiefs one-dimensional last night and it's not like it was hard. They haven't been able to run all season.

The Chiefs were exactly who they've always been, and it still took a flukey holding call to lose.

kcpasco · 01-16-2017, 04:18 PM

Just draft and develop a guy and I wouldn't be that upset with seeing Alex go another year or 2. The fact this franchise is so dead set against that just plain sucks.

gold_and_red · 01-16-2017, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Emotional post not grounded in logic or evidence.

Alex Smith wasn't the issue last night. Neither was Reid. Neither was Sutton. The Chiefs couldn't run the ball and they couldn't stop the run. No amount of scheming is going to change that.

You can scheme and coach all you want, but you have to win your 1v1 battles. If you can't do that nothing else matters. Players have to play.

Kelce has to catch the ****ing ball.
Poe and the interior line can't get pushed back off the snap.
Jah Reid can't get blown past and beaten badly like that.
West can't drop the ball while running.

The O-line hasn't won the battle up front in the running game all ****ing season.

So who is ultimately responsible for the OL? Of course it is on Reid. 4 years, same system, same coaches and same sh**** results.
Pats OL got ran out of Denver last year in the AFCCG. They fired their OL coach, coaxed the great Scarnecchia back and look how it has looked all of this season. With Reid it is always the patented "its on me, we will look at the tape and fix issues.".

Go Royals · 01-16-2017, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Emotional post not grounded in logic or evidence.

Alex Smith wasn't the issue last night. Neither was Reid. Neither was Sutton. The Chiefs couldn't run the ball and they couldn't stop the run. No amount of scheming is going to change that.

You can scheme and coach all you want, but you have to win your 1v1 battles. If you can't do that nothing else matters. Players have to play.

Kelce has to catch the ****ing ball.
Poe and the interior line can't get pushed back off the snap.
Jah Reid can't get blown past and beaten badly like that.
West can't drop the ball while running.

The O-line hasn't won the battle up front in the running game all ****ing season.

It wasn't that the Chiefs couldn't run the ball. They didn't bother trying

Red Dawg · 01-16-2017, 04:34 PM

Dorsey and Andy should sit down and watch the game films and make a decision based on that. Not the team record. If they do that he will not be extended.

**Dave Lane** · 01-16-2017, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Hopefully Alex Smith takes moped driving lessons from Percy Snow in the offseason.

Sorry have to spread some rep around first

RunKC · 01-16-2017, 04:40 PM

I hate to say this, but I can totally see Tyrod Taylor being signed if/when Buffalo releases him. I can see Andy wanting him for his scheme.

RunKC · 01-16-2017, 04:54 PM

Here's the play that pissed me off all night last night. JFC this is embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/claywendler/stat...23434457497600

And yes I realize this is Clay. He was the only one that has the all 22 at the moment

01-15-2017, 10:40 PM
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6888717	It's time to move on from Alex Smith. He wasn't even the main reason we lost. We're just never gonna win a Super Bowl with him. It's time. The two best QBs in the AFC are left to play for the right to play in the Super Bowl. Not shocking. Every team that has won their playoff matchup has had the better QB. Unless you have an elite defense the better QB is more often than not gonna win the matchup. It's not rocket science. Time to draft one high. Finally.
Posts: 26,653

01-16-2017, 03:58 PM	#286
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1381248	Hopefully Alex Smith takes moped driving lessons from Percy Snow in the offseason.
Posts: 51,998

01-16-2017, 04:01 PM	#287
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1010478	These people hoping he's going to be gone will be disappointed. The minute the Chiefs won the division he was guaranteed to return. Just don't give him another contract. The last thing this fan base needs to debate over is whether 35-year old Alex Smith can win a Super Bowl. "He can still scramble a little." "Just need to lean on the running game." "D needs to step up." Christ.
Posts: 296,745

01-16-2017, 04:03 PM	#288
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	Smith is going to get an extension. Just go ahead and accept that reality because it's happening.
Posts: 15,945

01-16-2017, 04:09 PM	#289
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	I agree with the title of this thread plus I think the Chiefs should move on from Andy Reid and Bob Sutton. I want a new regime in place that's young and will provide sound overall coaching with good player development, good game planning and sound in game decision making/adjustments. I'm convinced Chiefs will never win with Andy Reid, Alex Smith and Bob Sutton. They're just too damn conservative and lack logic. How can any franchise win anything when it's leaders are fear dominant and ignorant? Fear and ignorance are the enemy of success and the Chiefs reek of that! Draft and develop a quarterback and get a new coaching regime with smarts and balls. The NFL today guys is about finding that right QB-coach chemistry. Why do you think the Patriots win all the time? Because they got the best QB-coach chemistry that no other franchise or team could match. We just have to accept that they're better and until Brady-Belicheck are gone, Chiefs ain't winning. The strategy stated above, is to prepare this team 3, 4 years ahead from now. *Imo, the Chiefs have a core. They should keep that intact and re-sign guys like Berry, Poe, DJ. Pittsburgh proves that keeping your team nucleus intact is a remedy for success. Chiefs should follow that sort of bluebrint. And yeah meanwhile explore and go through that journey of finding that franchise QB via draft and possibly find that young upcoming coach through the collegiate ranks that will someday make an excellent coach in the NFL? I think this is the Chiefs best option for success. Question is, is this franchise capable of being that schrewd by finding those hidden gems? I don't have the confidence or belief that they are.
Posts: 5,513

01-16-2017, 04:18 PM	#293
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2123063	The Steelers made the Chiefs one-dimensional last night and it's not like it was hard. They haven't been able to run all season. The Chiefs were exactly who they've always been, and it still took a flukey holding call to lose. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
Posts: 65,925

01-16-2017, 04:18 PM	#294
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	Just draft and develop a guy and I wouldn't be that upset with seeing Alex go another year or 2. The fact this franchise is so dead set against that just plain sucks.
Posts: 15,945

01-16-2017, 04:34 PM	#297
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1442858	Dorsey and Andy should sit down and watch the game films and make a decision based on that. Not the team record. If they do that he will not be extended. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
Posts: 33,093

01-16-2017, 04:40 PM	#299
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1430389	I hate to say this, but I can totally see Tyrod Taylor being signed if/when Buffalo releases him. I can see Andy wanting him for his scheme. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 52,070

01-16-2017, 04:54 PM	#300
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1430389	Here's the play that pissed me off all night last night. JFC this is embarrassing. https://twitter.com/claywendler/stat...23434457497600 And yes I realize this is Clay. He was the only one that has the all 22 at the moment __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 52,070