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Old 01-17-2017, 11:58 AM   #1
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If Poe wants anything north of $10 million a season......let him go and plug Jaye Howard at NT. Bailey - Howard - Jones
Fortunately I'm not a GM.

Because I'd just take my phone off the hook until draft day and tell any free agent involved in that clown show that they can go take playoff games off somewhere else.

Anybody that's a FA this year has now been a part of 3 absolute abortions in the playoffs, especially the guys on the defense.

Seriously, I just don't give a ****. I know I'm in the easily irritable post-playoff stages but I just don't care. EB - we can blow massive leads without you just the same as we could with you. Poe - as much fun as watching you get butt-****ed by non-descript interior lineman every January has been, I'm pretty sure we can find a street FA capable of accomplishing absolutely nothing when the lights are bright.

Houston, Maclin, Smith....man, cut all of them and right this very second I would give precisely zero ****s. I'm so tired of key players on this team wilting when it matters.
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:28 PM   #2
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Fortunately I'm not a GM.

Because I'd just take my phone off the hook until draft day and tell any free agent involved in that clown show that they can go take playoff games off somewhere else.

Anybody that's a FA this year has now been a part of 3 absolute abortions in the playoffs, especially the guys on the defense.

Seriously, I just don't give a ****. I know I'm in the easily irritable post-playoff stages but I just don't care. EB - we can blow massive leads without you just the same as we could with you. Poe - as much fun as watching you get butt-****ed by non-descript interior lineman every January has been, I'm pretty sure we can find a street FA capable of accomplishing absolutely nothing when the lights are bright.

Houston, Maclin, Smith....man, cut all of them and right this very second I would give precisely zero ****s. I'm so tired of key players on this team wilting when it matters.
Why are people upset with Maclin? He made a clutch catch to nullify Kelce's dumbassery and was wide the **** open for a clear TD that Alex ****ed up bc he threw it back shoulder
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:55 PM   #3
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was wide the **** open for a clear TD that Alex ****ed up because he threw it back shoulder
complete BS...9/10 times that ball GOES to the back shoulder, away from the defender.

just stop.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:54 PM   #4
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complete BS...9/10 times that ball GOES to the back shoulder, away from the defender.

just stop.
Exactly.

Back shoulder /= outside shoulder.

That was not a stop route, not a timing route. 'back shoulder' doesn't come into play. It was the kind of super complicated route you ran in high school - it was a simple flag route (may have been more of a post-corner same concept).

And on that throw, 99 times out of 100 you put it to the WRs outside shoulder because the route is designed in a way to put the WR between the DB and the sideline. Outside shoulder makes it impossible for the DB to get there without going through the WR. If the receiver looks the right way, it's an completion or a PI.

And the ball all but hit him in the shoulder - it couldn't have been better placed.

J-Mac just turned the wrong way. There's no reason for him to have looked to the inside on that route; trying to sneak it inside shoulder with the DB having inside position is upping the degree of difficulty by roughly a metric ton.

Maclin and Smith weren't on the same page at all this year and this was another one of those times. But that's a textbook outside shoulder throw from Smith and if anyone carries 'blame' there, it's Maclin.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:45 PM   #5
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Why are people upset with Maclin? He made a clutch catch to nullify Kelce's dumbassery and was wide the **** open for a clear TD that Alex ****ed up bc he threw it back shoulder
Smith didn't throw that back shoulder; he threw it away from the DB towards the pylon. If the throws it to the inside shoulder, the DB has a play on the ball.

That was perfect ball placement from Smith and Maclin just didn't get his head turned. That's not a 'back shoulder' throw, it's a simple throw to the outside shoulder allowing the WR to keep himself between the DB and the ball.

Maclin ran a flag route and Smith put the ball exactly where the ball should go on a flag route - directly at the front flag. That's basic route running - if you're headed towards the pylon, look for the ball over your outside shoulder.

I'm not upset with Maclin - he played a fine game (though he absolutely messed that play up). But he didn't have a good season and like I said, I'd be hard pressed to give a shit about anybody they let go right now.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:51 PM   #6
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Smith didn't throw that back shoulder; he threw it away from the DB towards the pylon. If the throws it to the inside shoulder, the DB has a play on the ball.

That was perfect ball placement from Smith and Maclin just didn't get his head turned. That's not a 'back shoulder' throw, it's a simple throw to the outside shoulder allowing the WR to keep himself between the DB and the ball.

Maclin ran a flag route and Smith put the ball exactly where the ball should go on a flag route - directly at the front flag. That's basic route running - if you're headed towards the pylon, look for the ball over your outside shoulder.

I'm not upset with Maclin - he played a fine game (though he absolutely messed that play up). But he didn't have a good season and like I said, I'd be hard pressed to give a shit about anybody they let go right now.
If he's looking over his inside shoulder there from the beginning, smith threw the wrong ball. Throw it to the back of the endzone.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:59 PM   #7
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If he's looking over his inside shoulder there from the beginning, smith threw the wrong ball. Throw it to the back of the endzone.
Here's an exercise - run forward, cut 45 degrees to your right and then 90 degrees to your left, now turn your head and look back to where you started - which direction does your head go?

If you try to turn your head inside looking for that throw, it's going to turn your shoulders and flatten out that route. Again, that's why that throw is designed outside shoulder - everything about it is far more natural. If you try to throw it inside shoulder it's going to require one of those jumping/turning acrobatic catches that clearly wasn't necessary given that separation. The throw from Smith was clearly designed to go right at that front flag and Maclins route was taking him right to it. There's just nothing that makes sense about assuming that it was actually designed to go to the back of the end zone but both guys screwed up so it was 12 yards short.

KISS - the simplest solution here is almost certainly the correct one.
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Here's an exercise - run forward, cut 45 degrees to your right and then 90 degrees to your left, now turn your head and look back to where you started - which direction does your head go?

If you try to turn your head inside looking for that throw, it's going to turn your shoulders and flatten out that route. Again, that's why that throw is designed outside shoulder - everything about it is far more natural. If you try to throw it inside shoulder it's going to require one of those jumping/turning acrobatic catches that clearly wasn't necessary given that separation. The throw from Smith was clearly designed to go right at that front flag and Maclins route was taking him right to it. There's just nothing that makes sense about assuming that it was actually designed to go to the back of the end zone but both guys screwed up so it was 12 yards short.

KISS - the simplest solution here is almost certainly the correct one.
Maybe.

**** if I know, I'm still just pissed at the whole thing
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