The First Round QB

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Matt Schaub is the worst QB on that list and he once threw for nearly 5000 yards and 30 TD.

Chiefs fans would have thought he was the second coming of Dan Marino.

You just screwed up your own argument.

Shaub is the worst QB on the list .......... he threw for 5k/30td

If Shaub was in this offense he wouldn't have thrown for 5k/30td.

Smith threw for 3,500 yards this year in an offense that was goofy as shit.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

If Shaub was in this offense he wouldn't have thrown for 5k/30td.

I find that hard to believe considering he did that on a Texans team that had Andre Johnson and a bunch of scabs on offense.

Kevin Walter? Owen Daniels? Steve Slaton? Jacoby Jones?

Trash compared to our skill position players.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

I find that hard to believe considering he did that on a Texans team that had Andre Johnson and a bunch of scabs on offense.

Kevin Walter? Owen Daniels? Steve Slaton? Jacoby Jones?

Trash compared to our skill position players.

shaub became predictable and fragile. i would never take shaub over alex. so there is that

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

shaub became predictable and fragile. i would never take shaub over alex. so there is that

That's a complete unobjective opinion.

Schaub's worst full season was better than Smith's best full season.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

That's a complete unobjective opinion.

Schaub's worst full season was better than Smith's best full season.

does the fact he has not been a starting qb for the last four years tell you something?

shaub's best season he had 15 int's and the team finished 9-7. that was 8 years ago.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

shaub became predictable and fragile. i would never take shaub over alex. so there is that

Agreed. Matt Shaub is not starting in the NFL. Does anyone really believe that if we let Alex Smith go he wouldn't be starting somewhere else? There are a lot of teams that would give Smith a starting job, but none that will give Schaub one. Smith>Schaub.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Agreed. Matt Shaub is not starting in the NFL. Does anyone really believe that if we let Alex Smith go he wouldn't be starting somewhere else? There are a lot of teams that would give Smith a starting job, but none that will give Schaub one. Smith>Schaub.

you're completely missing the point, which is:

the chiefs would have been far better off drafting matt schaub in 2004, instead of picking junior siavii, and given his success relative to the quarterbacks who have played for us since, this fan base would have been in ****ing love with him

that is how low the standard is for quarterback play in kansas city, and the franchise's success drafting QBs in the last 15 years

TLDR: If you take the WORST QB the Chiefs had an opportunity to draft in the last 15 years (of the ones that panned out decently or better), he's still better than everyone else that has played for the Chiefs in that time frame.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

you're completely missing the point, which is:

the chiefs would have been far better off drafting matt schaub in 2004, instead of picking junior siavii, and given his success relative to the quarterbacks who have played for us since, this fan base would have been in ****ing love with him

that is how low the standard is for quarterback play in kansas city, and the franchise's success drafting QBs in the last 15 years

TLDR: If you take the WORST QB the Chiefs had an opportunity to draft in the last 15 years (of the ones that panned out decently or better), he's still better than everyone else that has played for the Chiefs in that time frame.

see, here you are trying to pervert the truth. were you to make this a valid argument you would have said the chiefs should have drafted shaub instead of TE kris wilson

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

see, here you are trying to pervert the truth. were you to make this a valid argument you would have said the chiefs should have drafted shaub instead of TE kris wilson

i was trying to make a point about the first round, though

the chiefs traded out and picked junior siavii, one of the worst expenditures of a first round pick by this team in it's entire history

they would have been better off staying put and picking the next QB taken which wasn't until the THIRD round

THAT is how low the standard is for some of this franchise's first round picks over the last 15 years

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

you're completely missing the point, which is:

the chiefs would have been far better off drafting matt schaub in 2004, instead of picking junior siavii, and given his success relative to the quarterbacks who have played for us since, this fan base would have been in ****ing love with him

that is how low the standard is for quarterback play in kansas city, and the franchise's success drafting QBs in the last 15 years

TLDR: If you take the WORST QB the Chiefs had an opportunity to draft in the last 15 years (of the ones that panned out decently or better), he's still better than everyone else that has played for the Chiefs in that time frame.

I guarantee he wouldn't be our starter today if we had drafted him in 2004, so I don't see the point in your post. But I guess if we drafted him in the 1st you would think he was the GOAT, since that seems to be the way you judge QBs. Judging by results, I would take Alex Smith over Matt Schaub today, and since it is 2017 not 2004 that is all that really matters to me.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I guarantee he wouldn't be our starter today if we had drafted him in 2004, so I don't see the point in your post.

the point is that's clearly the right thing to do for this team going forward.

we've been ****ing up not drafting QBs for 15 years, if not longer.

time to change that strategy. soon. we literally have nothing to lose, because what we've been doing at the QB position flat out doesn't work, and the last four years are just adding to the mountain of evidence assembled by this franchise.