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Old 03-11-2017, 09:10 AM   #1
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Yes. **** this guy and **** this deal.
Find someone who can nab you 60+ tackles, 3 INT, forced fumbles and has the position versatility he has for $4 million per or less not on a rookie contract.

Bitching for the sake of bitching. It ain't your money, so why the butthurt? Guy knows the system, is loved in the locker room and can ball.

But I get it - he wasn't voted to the PROBOWL and his Madden rankings/stats are just ok.

Dummies.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:12 AM   #2
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Find someone who can nab you 60+ tackles, 3 INT, forced fumbles and has the position versatility he has for $4 million per or less not on a rookie contract.

Bitching for the sake of bitching. It ain't your money, so why the butthurt? Guy knows the system, is loved in the locker room and can ball.

But I get it - he wasn't voted to the PROBOWL and his Madden rankings/stats are just ok.

Dummies.
Sorensen could be replaced with an average veteran free agent or a mid-round draft pick easily.

His WAR would be zero
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:15 AM   #3
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Find someone who can nab you 60+ tackles, 3 INT, forced fumbles and has the position versatility he has for $4 million per or less not on a rookie contract.

Bitching for the sake of bitching. It ain't your money, so why the butthurt? Guy knows the system, is loved in the locker room and can ball.

But I get it - he wasn't voted to the PROBOWL and his Madden rankings/stats are just ok.

Dummies.
He does okay in his role in pass defense, but he's also asked to play in the box, where he is a liability.

And this has nothing to do with meaningless accolades, and I have never played Madden.

I also think that Berry is overpaid, and I'm a big fan of Berry.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:27 AM   #4
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He does okay in his role in pass defense, but he's also asked to play in the box, where he is a liability.

And this has nothing to do with meaningless accolades, and I have never played Madden.

I also think that Berry is overpaid, and I'm a big fan of Berry.
Looking at this objectively, he was developed to replace Husain Abdullah and to his credit, he had a better 2016 season than any Abdullah had combined in his 3 years here.

He's really bad vs the run though, but I think part of that is getting left in the nickel with no help.

It looks like a reasonable contract so I don't see a big issue here. But I agree that Eric Murray could do his job well.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:31 AM   #5
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I have no problem keeping him. He will only get better and has gotten better an earned more playing time. He's got a high motor and has made some plays when on the field.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:32 AM   #6
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He does okay in his role in pass defense, but he's also asked to play in the box, where he is a liability.

And this has nothing to do with meaningless accolades, and I have never played Madden.

I also think that Berry is overpaid, and I'm a big fan of Berry.
My Madden comment was not specifically directed at you. But "knee jerk planet" does not take long to surface at the announcing of new contracts/acquisitions. The fact that Sorenson CAN play in the box, on teams, and blitz, and play in coverage should tell us something.

I agree with your Berry comment. More have to realize that these players are being compensated for more than what we just see on Sundays. I view Sorenson as a very dependable, consistent player with a huge versatility plus. Not a lot of players can do what he can, as well as he can.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:38 AM   #7
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My Madden comment was not specifically directed at you. But "knee jerk planet" does not take long to surface at the announcing of new contracts/acquisitions. The fact that Sorenson CAN play in the box, on teams, and blitz, and play in coverage should tell us something.

I agree with your Berry comment. More have to realize that these players are being compensated for more than what we just see on Sundays. I view Sorenson as a very dependable, consistent player with a huge versatility plus. Not a lot of players can do what he can, as well as he can.
But, Sorenson can not actually play in the box.

He's a liability in that role.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:44 AM   #8
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But, Sorenson can not actually play in the box.

He's a liability in that role.
They played him there last season out of necessity due to injury, not out of design. At the very least, he showed them his value was in the defensive backfield at safety, not near the line.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:45 AM   #9
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They played him there last season out of necessity due to injury, not out of design. At the very least, he showed them his value was in the defensive backfield at safety, not near the line.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:48 AM   #10
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They played him there last season out of necessity due to injury, not out of design. At the very least, he showed them his value was in the defensive backfield at safety, not near the line.
^ This.

The perverbial "yeoman's service".

I think the draft will feature a lot of front 7 picks. Many questions at both ILB/OLB along with the NT position.
Believe it or not, I think we may move early on a WR as well. Maclin has to justify his contract this year after a disappointing 2016.
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:24 PM   #11
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He does okay in his role in pass defense, but he's also asked to play in the box, where he is a liability.

And this has nothing to do with meaningless accolades, and I have never played Madden.

I also think that Berry is overpaid, and I'm a big fan of Berry.
Oh, I get it... you don't understand that safeties are important.
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:25 PM   #12
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He does okay in his role in pass defense, but he's also asked to play in the box, where he is a liability.

And this has nothing to do with meaningless accolades, and I have never played Madden.

I also think that Berry is overpaid, and I'm a big fan of Berry.
May be late to the party, but just saw this and am responding. DJ's injury could've led to him being played in the box more, which I agree is beyond his capabilities. If we can find a legit option in the middle, I think we can maximize Sorenson's strengths.
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