1st Round Mock 2.0

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

If Deshaun drops past 15, I go get him.

I agree. I'd give our first four picks to move to 16 to get him. I'm not a Mahommes fan. He's not going until day 2 or 3. There simply isn't enough talent there to warrant taking him in the first.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

I agree. I'd give our first four picks to move to 16 to get him. I'm not a Mahommes fan. He's not going until day 2 or 3. There simply isn't enough talent there to warrant taking him in the first.

I told you last year, whether he deserved it or not, Goff was going #1.

I'm telling you this year that Mahomes is going round 1.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I told you last year, whether he deserved it or not, Goff was going #1.

I'm telling you this year that Mahomes is going round 1.

You were right about that. I couldn't believe they didn't take Wentz. Maybe someone trades back into the first round and takes him? I doubt it though. He's a big project.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

You were right about that. I couldn't believe they didn't take Wentz. Maybe someone trades back into the first round and takes him? I doubt it though. He's a big project.

He's a project yeah, just like the rest, but he has some great tools that are hard to find. He also seems to be a guy that will go to work and he's a leader with fire and passion. He tries to make too many plays sometimes, and that's my biggest fear with him. Brett Favre never got over it and it cost his team as much as it helped. I'm not at all worried about this back foot business. He's shown me more than enough good that it's really a non-issue for me. Getting him to stop playing back yard football, that's the issue. Rodgers and Roethlisberger have that aspect to their game too, but they know when to pull back. I've seen Mahomes do some smart things and live to play the next down, but he still makes some bonehead mistakes. That's when the pundits chime in and say he has these horrible mechanics. No, really, for the most part he has solid mechanics but they do break down when he tries to do too much.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He's a project yeah, just like the rest, but he has some great tools that are hard to find. He also seems to be a guy that will go to work and he's a leader with fire and passion. He tries to make too many plays sometimes, and that's my biggest fear with him. Brett Favre never got over it and it cost his team as much as it helped. I'm not at all worried about this back foot business. He's shown me more than enough good that it's really a non-issue for me. Getting him to stop playing back yard football, that's the issue. Rodgers and Roethlisberger have that aspect to their game too, but they know when to pull back. I've seen Mahomes do some smart things and live to play the next down, but he still makes some bonehead mistakes. That's when the pundits chime in and say he has these horrible mechanics. No, really, for the most part he has solid mechanics but they do break down when he tries to do too much.

He does not have solid mechanics. His feet are all over the place and he rarely steps into his throw. His throwing motion isnt ideal, but it's not bad. But the lower half of his body is a mess when he throws 80% of the time.
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[kccrow]

Originally Posted by -King-

He does not have solid mechanics. His feet are all over the place and he rarely steps into his throw. His throwing motion isnt ideal, but it's not bad. But the lower half of his body is a mess when he throws 80% of the time.
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this isn't ****ing baseball dude, QBs don't step into throws. it's called weight transfer, and he effectively transfers that weight from his back throwing leg to his front, non-throwing leg with good hip and core torsion most of the time. I see it. Not sure what the problem is. Are you expecting him to leg whip and bring his back foot off the ground every throw? I just don't get it. Yeah, he throws off his back foot sometimes, but he's far from a mess mechanically.

If he has an issue, it's trying to make a play too often rather than throwing balls away he should. Can't chuck some of those balls up on the move that he does and not have them picked in the NFL. I think it was Bucky Brooks who said it best for me: "He just throws the ball up sometimes and it drives me crazy." That sums it up for me with him too. It isn't his mechanics. Gotta coach the bad decisions out of him. Reign this kid in, he's going to be a stud.

[raybec 4]

Mahomes will not under any circumstances make it out of the first round. Way too much arm talent to pass on with at least 10 teams who have immediate need or are looking to the next 2 years with a current veteran who won't be around.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by kccrow

this isn't ****ing baseball dude, QBs don't step into throws. it's called weight transfer, and he effectively transfers that weight from his back throwing leg to his front, non-throwing leg with good hip and core torsion most of the time. I see it. Not sure what the problem is. Are you expecting him to leg whip and bring his back foot off the ground every throw? I just don't get it. Yeah, he throws off his back foot sometimes, but he's far from a mess mechanically.

If he has an issue, it's trying to make a play too often rather than throwing balls away he should. Can't chuck some of those balls up on the move that he does and not have them picked in the NFL. I think it was Bucky Brooks who said it best for me: "He just throws the ball up sometimes and it drives me crazy." That sums it up for me with him too. It isn't his mechanics. Gotta coach the bad decisions out of him. Reign this kid in, he's going to be a stud.

Wut? QB don't step into throws? Lol what?
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