Sleepers - Page 2

kccrow · 03-23-2017, 09:57 AM

Let's discuss some sleepers or guys that you're really high on that aren't getting much of any buzz. I'll start with 3 I really like (one of which I've mocked so I'll just throw my report in from there). I'll try to add more here as we move along.

Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (5'9" 208)
Outstanding back with great balance, speed, quickness, and lower body explosion. Combine numbers back up tape. Underrated runner from small school that put up large numbers and did so against top competition as well. A slashing running back that will makes defenders pay in open space. Effective jump cut and spin move. Active feet and great balance to break tackles and make quick moves to cut on a dime. Outstanding vision and patience. Follows his blocks and finds his cutback lanes. Outstanding receiver out of the backfield. Can beat linebackers down field and can make catches in stride with soft hands. Takes care of the football. Runs a bit high, opening himself up to some hits and reducing his power inside the tackle box. One of the most productive players in college football in 2016 with over 2000 all purpose yards and 20 TDs (1773 rush and 17 tds and 233 receiving and 3 tds) which saw him average 7.7 yards per carry. Was injured for most of 2015, but put up extremely impressive stats in 2014 with over 1300 yards rushing. A huge sleeper in a deep class that will give a team a value pick in the mold of Charlie Garner or LeSean McCoy as a prototypical WCO back that can run the outside stretch and catch passes out of the backfield.

Robert Davis, WR, Georgia State (6'3" 219)
Outstanding size/speed prospect. Runs good routes. Reliable hands-catcher. Tracks the ball well on deep throws. Ability to make acrobatic catches in traffic and on the goal line. Has long stride and good top-end speed to break big gains. Superb leaping ability. Production against all levels of competition. Great change-of-direct skills despite his size and gate. Looks like a #1 receiver in the NFL, especially if he learns to use his size to his advantage. Put up better testing numbers than Dez Bryant.

Winston Craig, DT, Richmond (6'3" 288)
Stout with a thick bubble. Shows good burst off the snap with a strong initial punch. Splits double-teams well with a nice arm over. Uses hands extremely well. Shows the ability to one-arm and keep his frame clean. Disruptive. Outstanding closing burst to the ball carrier. Scrapes down the line well and makes plays outside of his zone. Nasty, hittting with purpose when he gets a clean release. Experience as a 3-4 DE. One of the most productive defensive lineman in the FCS. 3rd team All-American. Hard worker that never misses a training day and was a team captain.

**SAGA45** · 04-23-2017, 02:57 PM

Grover Stewart DT/NT Albany State

staylor26 · 04-23-2017, 03:05 PM

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Grover Stewart DT/NT Albany State

Yea I hope we draft this guy on day 3.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-23-2017, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bob

Kelly is not an elite athlete and he's not very smart. He won't be in the pros for long imo. It doesn't matter if he gets his act together.

I think QB Josh Dobbs could be a serious sleeper. He is very underrated and has the "it" factor. Plus, he reminds me of Peyton Manning. He went to Tennesee and has a giant forehead.

He should claim to have a mind like Peyton Manning and be an athlete like Michael Vick.

Beef Supreme · 04-24-2017, 07:32 PM

kccrow · 04-24-2017, 09:16 PM

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LOL

staylor26 · 04-29-2017, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

Tanoh Kpassagnon from Villanova could be a sleeper. I know he's from a bigger school but he is going to be a solid 4-3 DE or maybe 3-4 OLB. He's strong and has a high motor, good nose for the ball.

Props

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2017, 10:39 AM

The OLB talk is odd to me.

Is it because he's tall? It makes him look leaner than he is but really that means he could probably add a little more weight.

Can you imagine this dude at 310 playing the 5-tech? He'd be a monster. Then again, similar things were said about Hunt and he never did shit.

Ask me what I expect and I'd say Margus Hunt but it's hard not to be excited about the possibilities with this guy. Using my preferred 'scouting grade' method, I think you'd have to call him something like an 8.0(D), with his first number being his ceiling and his letter being the odds of getting there.

Wormley would've been something like a 7.0(C); lower ceiling but much greater chance he hits it. I think that's the route I'd have taken with this pick if I were set on going DL. But I understand what Dorsey sees, applaud the juevos and I sure hope it works out.

Direckshun · 05-01-2017, 11:04 AM

That's a fantastic way of grading players, DJLN.

O.city · 05-01-2017, 11:13 AM

Was hunt actually a functional athlete though? He always seemed stiff to me

staylor26 · 05-01-2017, 11:16 AM

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Was hunt actually a functional athlete though? He always seemed stiff to me

Agreed. I wasn't a fan of Hunt on the football field, but I really like Tanoh.

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Agreed. I wasn't a fan of Hunt on the football field...

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DJ's left nut · 05-01-2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's a fantastic way of grading players, DJLN.

Stole it from Hockeysfuture.com years ago and have been using it ever since.

There's really no better shorthand for breaking down the old ceiling/floor discussion. It's short, intuitive and covers all the bases.

O.city · 05-01-2017, 11:38 AM

I'm still a little iffy on the 2nd round for this guy. Not sold he's much of a difference maker early.

staylor26 · 05-01-2017, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

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raybec 4 · 05-01-2017, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Props

Thanks!

03-23-2017, 09:57 AM
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1070000	Sleepers Let's discuss some sleepers or guys that you're really high on that aren't getting much of any buzz. I'll start with 3 I really like (one of which I've mocked so I'll just throw my report in from there). I'll try to add more here as we move along. Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (5'9" 208) Outstanding back with great balance, speed, quickness, and lower body explosion. Combine numbers back up tape. Underrated runner from small school that put up large numbers and did so against top competition as well. A slashing running back that will makes defenders pay in open space. Effective jump cut and spin move. Active feet and great balance to break tackles and make quick moves to cut on a dime. Outstanding vision and patience. Follows his blocks and finds his cutback lanes. Outstanding receiver out of the backfield. Can beat linebackers down field and can make catches in stride with soft hands. Takes care of the football. Runs a bit high, opening himself up to some hits and reducing his power inside the tackle box. One of the most productive players in college football in 2016 with over 2000 all purpose yards and 20 TDs (1773 rush and 17 tds and 233 receiving and 3 tds) which saw him average 7.7 yards per carry. Was injured for most of 2015, but put up extremely impressive stats in 2014 with over 1300 yards rushing. A huge sleeper in a deep class that will give a team a value pick in the mold of Charlie Garner or LeSean McCoy as a prototypical WCO back that can run the outside stretch and catch passes out of the backfield. Robert Davis, WR, Georgia State (6'3" 219) Outstanding size/speed prospect. Runs good routes. Reliable hands-catcher. Tracks the ball well on deep throws. Ability to make acrobatic catches in traffic and on the goal line. Has long stride and good top-end speed to break big gains. Superb leaping ability. Production against all levels of competition. Great change-of-direct skills despite his size and gate. Looks like a #1 receiver in the NFL, especially if he learns to use his size to his advantage. Put up better testing numbers than Dez Bryant. Winston Craig, DT, Richmond (6'3" 288) Stout with a thick bubble. Shows good burst off the snap with a strong initial punch. Splits double-teams well with a nice arm over. Uses hands extremely well. Shows the ability to one-arm and keep his frame clean. Disruptive. Outstanding closing burst to the ball carrier. Scrapes down the line well and makes plays outside of his zone. Nasty, hittting with purpose when he gets a clean release. Experience as a 3-4 DE. One of the most productive defensive lineman in the FCS. 3rd team All-American. Hard worker that never misses a training day and was a team captain.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-640901	The OLB talk is odd to me. Is it because he's tall? It makes him look leaner than he is but really that means he could probably add a little more weight. Can you imagine this dude at 310 playing the 5-tech? He'd be a monster. Then again, similar things were said about Hunt and he never did shit. Ask me what I expect and I'd say Margus Hunt but it's hard not to be excited about the possibilities with this guy. Using my preferred 'scouting grade' method, I think you'd have to call him something like an 8.0(D), with his first number being his ceiling and his letter being the odds of getting there. Wormley would've been something like a 7.0(C); lower ceiling but much greater chance he hits it. I think that's the route I'd have taken with this pick if I were set on going DL. But I understand what Dorsey sees, applaud the juevos and I sure hope it works out. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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