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Old 09-15-2017, 12:52 PM  
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The NFL Is Seriously Concerned With Empty Stadiums
The NFL Is Seriously Concerned With Empty Stadiums

By: Ryan Phillips | September 13, 2017


Week 1 of the NFL season had plenty of important stories worth following, but maybe the most entertaining was the mostly empty stadiums in Los Angeles and Santa Clara. Both the Los Angeles Rams and San Francisco 49ers had sparse crowds for their home openers, and that has not gone unnoticed by the NFL.


Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart on the attendance in LA & SF: “Any time we empty seats that something we want to address.” Focused on sellouts.
10:29 AM - Sep 13, 2017


Ian Rapoport’s report (try and say that fast five times) above shows that the league is clearly worried about the optics of half-filled stadiums. And they should be. It’s embarrassing for the league.

This is what the 49ers crowd looked like at the start of the second half in Week 1:



And here’s what the Rams crowd looked like in the first quarter:



Here’s the thing, the NFL’s plans for relocating teams have been hilariously ham-fisted. Moving the 49ers to Santa Clara, 45 minutes from San Francisco was a moronic decision. Levi’s Stadium is also positioned so roughly 70 percent of the stadium bakes in the sun with no chance of shade.

Meanwhile, the Rams might actually have decent attendance once they move into their new stadium, but that’s a huge gamble. Until then, they’ll likely be dealing with sparse crowds at the Coliseum for the next three seasons. It’s terrible optics for the NFL to have empty stadiums and absolutely no atmosphere for games.

And we haven’t even gotten to the Los Angeles Chargers, who haven’t even been able to sellout a 27,000-seat stadium. No one wanted the Chargers in Los Angeles, and it has shown so far. Dean Spanos and his family have consistently claimed they are pleased with ticket sales and “excited” about what’s happened with the franchise in LA, but look at the following picture for the team’s first ever official game in Los Angeles:



That was taken just before publishing this piece. Everything in color there is a ticket on sale for the team’s Week 2 matchup with the Miami Dolphins. Many of them are “re-sale” tickets that were likely snagged up by brokers when season tickets went on sale. Those brokers will likely aim to sell those seats to opposing fans all season. That graphic is stunning because it comes from just one ticket selling website, and there are several others that each have hundreds of tickets available.

The fact that the Chargers can’t find 27,000 fans to fill their tiny soccer stadium home for their opener in a new city would be shocking if you hadn’t followed this move from the beginning. But, let’s be real: there is zero buzz around the team, fan outreach efforts have been widely mocked and San Diego fans have abandoned the franchise en masse after the way the team’s ownership treated its former city. No matter how much lipstick the NFL tries to put on that situation, it’s always going to look like a pig.

Empty stadiums are a huge deal to the NFL. Yes, the league makes its money off of TV contracts, but when fans aren’t at games it has a detrimental impact on the product. It sends the message that games are boring, uninteresting and that people don’t want to have anything to do with them in person. That kind of message hurts the product as a whole.

Not to mention, players don’t want to play in empty stadiums, so those franchises will suffer when it comes time to lure free agents. That could lead to some teams being buried at the bottom of the league year after year and creating a cycle that leaves fans even less incentive to show up.

This is a major problem for the NFL. Maybe owners around the league will finally realize that their big, bold stadium and relocation plans should actually have more thought attached to them.


http://thebiglead.com/2017/09/13/the...mpty-stadiums/
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:43 AM   #136
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Nope. As a Raiders STH I've had more people hit me up for this season for tickets than any other. A winning product sure does help. The Raiders even Raised my cost this year by 400$ after never raising cost for the past decade and I still can sale my tickets for more if I chose to.

The Oakland Coliseum will be packed this year!

It's not because of Cali, higher prices, or politics. People want to see a winning product overall. Or a decent exciting game etc.
So the Faders are yanking your team away and even raised up your tickets to help pay for their moving cost- And you guys still pay it?

I would tell them to go **** themselves in Vegas.
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The Oakland Coliseum will be packed this year!

Does that mean they will uncover the other 2/3rds of the stadium?
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The Oakland Coliseum will be packed this year!

Does that mean they will uncover the other 2/3rds of the stadium?
Hopefully, the sewers will back up again and all their fans can wallow in it.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:41 AM   #139
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That is how I read it. Insert California joke here.
Except the NFL isn't concerned with the Rams.

The Rams sold all of their season tickets last year and there are very few available season tickets this year.

When only 40,000-50,000 people show up in a stadium that seats 100,000, the optics look bad for sure. But I know a ton of people that have bought into season tickets last year and this year so that they have a better chance at getting great seats in the new stadium when it opens because it increases their chances in the lottery.

Also, Kroenke World will not only be the home of the NFL Network, host several drafts, a Super Bowl and the Rams (not to mention the 2028 Olympics) by the time it opens in 2020, the team should be extremely competitive.

But the Chargers? I don't get it. They couldn't get more than 20,000 people to show up for preseason games. Their 27,000 seat stadium will be dominated by opposing fans (especially Raider week). If the Spanos family felt like the move to Los Angeles was to increase the value of their franchise (the Clippers sold for $2 Billion a few years back. The Clippers!), I think they made a serious misstep.

Plus, what city, outside of San Diego (who really didn't support them like most NFL cities), would fully support the Chargers? Certainly not Los Angeles. San Antonio? Portland? St. Louis? Some other destination? I don't think so.

I think the Chargers are screwed.
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I'm a complete outsider to the inner workings of the Chargers, but I feel that if Spanos ever sold the team and the new owner would take them back to San Diego, the city would welcome them with open arms. I think San Diego and the Spanos family had a huge falling out over how much the city would throw in on a new stadium, and like you said, Spanos severely overestimated what the LA move would bring in value to the Chargers.
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I'm a complete outsider to the inner workings of the Chargers, but I feel that if Spanos ever sold the team and the new owner would take them back to San Diego, the city would welcome them with open arms. I think San Diego and the Spanos family had a huge falling out over how much the city would throw in on a new stadium, and like you said, Spanos severely overestimated what the LA move would bring in value to the Chargers.
I just don't see someone purchasing the Chargers for $2 billion (or even $1.5 billion), building a $1 billion dollar or more stadium and earning a profit.

I've been to at least a dozen Chiefs-Chargers games over the years and the stadium was never full. Most of the time, 40% or more of the people in attendance where Chiefs fans and more than a few times, the crowd was more than 50% Chiefs fans. Raiders fans have dominated that stadium for more than a decade, even when the Raiders sucked.

Also, with declining ratings, it's possible that for the first time in the NFL's existence, TV Rights Fees will decline as well. It's not a certainty, because the NFL has one of the largest, if not the largest, advertising platforms in the US, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for the fees to plateau.

At that point, a new owner may think twice about buying in and building a stadium, only to see the Cash Cow stop producing as much milk.
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The ratings for week one are out. While Irma certainly had an impact on the overall numbers, the NFL should be worried about viewership in general.


Looking at the week 2 slate of games & there are some really interesting games this week.

Chiefs vs Eagles
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Titans vs Jags - I know I know but it interests me
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