Creating cap space for shoring up defense for 2018

[bigjosh]

I know it is looking way into the future, and neglecting 2017, but I was interested to see what kind of cap figures we could get into for 2018.

According to over the cap, the Chiefs are set to be .9M over the cap at the start of league year 2018.

This figure includes a dead money figure of 4.8M for Jeremy Maclin, and a dead money figure of .77M for Jah Reid.

There are a few players who I think have little to no chance of being on the roster next season.

Alex smith, with a cap figure of 20.6M if cut or traded would save 17M on the cap, and cost us 3.6M in dead money.

DJ, as much as I hate to say it, is done. Ending his 10.2M contract in 2018 saves 8M and leaves us with 2.2M in dead money.

Tamba Hali has a cap number of 8.5M in 2018 and would cost us 1.5M in dead money but save us 7M if cut.

So after those three we are at roughly 31.1M in cap space.

We have no big name free agents next year that we should be too concerned with resigning. I am guessing we pick up Marcus Peters 5th year option, which will keep him on the roster through the 2019 season. Dee Fords option was picked up earlier this off season and he will be a UFA at the start of the 2019 league year.

I dont think too many of our free agents stick around after this year.

Perhaps we resign Albert Wilson, Anthony Sherman, Terrence Mitchell and Zack Fulton. Those deals shouldnt cost much more than 10M I would hope. This year combined these four players account for less than 7.5M. Maybe we resign a couple low end UFA and RFA to tenders.

So realistically we could have 21M going into free agency.

I dont know if anyone here considers Allen Bailey and Ron Parker as potential cap casualties, but Bailey would save us another 6M and Ron parker would save us another 5M.

So without those two we could be sitting pretty at 32M in cap space prior to FA with the re signings of the players mentioned before.

Players I am looking at in free agency are:

Safety Kenny Vaccaro of the saints,

ILB Todd Davis of the broncos,

ILB Zach Brown of the redskins,

CB Morris Claiborne of the jets,

These guys aren't considered "top tier" free agents, but I think each one of them could come into this defense and be an immediate upgrade for a decent deal.

I would also be looking for a 3-4 DT or DE if there were any available that were worth a shit.

That being said, with the probable release of DJ and Hali and the group of pending free agents along the D Line, if it becomes necessary to switch to a 4-3 with a new DC, this would be a decent year to do it.

What do you think guys? How can we get this defense shored up prior to the draft?

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

AYE YI YI! WE HAVE TO SET UP THE PUNTER BEFORE THE SEMEN MONSTER ATTACKS!

accoeding to the first 7 cames we will kick 12 less punts than last year. That's less than the Squeelers and the Pats. Actually that would be #10 lowest. Now go stick your sax in the other blow hole...

[BigRedChief]

DJ has to go. He's been great and I still love the guy but he's an extreme liability and one of the reasons our defense sucks so bad. It's not really his fault, Father Time stops for no one.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

DJ has to go. He's been great and I still love the guy but he's an extreme liability and one of the reasons our defense sucks so bad. It's not really his fault, Father Time stops for no one.

He’s better than Ragland. Which isn’t saying much

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Jesus Christ let us just start the **** over with all new personnel and be mediocre for a few years.
There is a bunch of stupidity right here.
Hali and DJ because of age sure but no the rest on D doesn't need to go when we have nothing ready to replace all of those players.
Smith might get let go because we have his replacement on the roster.

Cutting off older, ineffective players isn't a bad thing you reerun. Teams do it every single year.

Are you advocating for keeping together a bottom tier Defense? I mean seriously, what the ****. Some of you ****ers have unquestionable love for jags and never ****ing were's.

"HEY THIS DEFENSE IS ****ING SHIT SO LETS TRADE ONE OF THE FEW GOOD PLAYERS BECAUSE HE IS EMOTIONAL AND **** YOU IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THESE UNDER PERFORMING PLAYERS THAT ARE THE ACTUAL ONES PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AIDS"

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Cutting off older, ineffective players isn't a bad thing you reerun. Teams do it every single year.

Are you advocating for keeping together a bottom tier Defense? I mean seriously, what the ****. Some of you ****ers have unquestionable love for jags and never ****ing were's.

"HEY THIS DEFENSE IS ****ING SHIT SO LETS TRADE ONE OF THE FEW GOOD PLAYERS BECAUSE HE IS EMOTIONAL AND **** YOU IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THESE UNDER PERFORMING PLAYERS THAT ARE THE ACTUAL ONES PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AIDS"

I agree with most all of this.

A few defensive players belong on the 53, but I bet at least a third of our starting defense doesn't even make the active roster on most nfl teams.

[l4z4rd]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Alex will get a 1st round pick. With that pick, take a legit defensive player at any position.

or teams just wait until the Chiefs cut Smith and save a draft pick.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by l4z4rd

or teams just wait until the Chiefs cut Smith and save a draft pick.

They won’t cut smith

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Cut Parker.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Rudy won the toss

Cut Parker.

That would save 5M in 2018

Originally Posted by penbrook

They won’t cut smith

He will not be on the roster next season. There is almost zero chance with the cap hell we are in and the fact that his replacement is already on the roster. If nobody bites on a trade, he will be released.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by bigjosh006

That would save 5M in 2018



He will not be on the roster next season. There is almost zero chance with the cap hell we are in and the fact that his replacement is already on the roster. If nobody bites on a trade, he will be released.

Penbrook is right, they aren't going to outright release Alex.

They can create enough space to function and counter teams that try to call the Chiefs bluff. Too much bad QB play and not enough supply to address it.

Somebody is going to pay the Chiefs for Alex.

[l4z4rd]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Penbrook is right, they aren't going to outright release Alex.

They can create enough space to function and counter teams that try to call the Chiefs bluff. Too much bad QB play and not enough supply to address it.

Somebody is going to pay the Chiefs for Alex.

The only way some team is going to pay the Chiefs is if Alex wants to play for that team.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Penbrook is right, they aren't going to outright release Alex.

They can create enough space to function and counter teams that try to call the Chiefs bluff. Too much bad QB play and not enough supply to address it.

Somebody is going to pay the Chiefs for Alex.

Jacksonville is the team IMO. They are ready to win now if they figure out the QB spot. I don't think Alex would be able to replacate his current performance there without the trio of Hunt/Hill/Kelce, but he'd still be a huge upgrade. They'd be contenders probably.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by l4z4rd

The only way some team is going to pay the Chiefs is if Alex wants to play for that team.

Well yeah, but that will be a feasible thing. Think people are underestimating how much demand he will have in the Spring.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by l4z4rd

or teams just wait until the Chiefs cut Smith and save a draft pick.

You really don't have any ****ing clue how or why trades happen in the NFL, do you?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

accoeding to the first 7 cames we will kick 12 less punts than last year. That's less than the Squeelers and the Pats. Actually that would be #10 lowest. Now go stick your sax in the other blow hole...

ALEX11

****ing reerun.