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Old 11-06-2017, 03:07 AM  
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The time has come, the parties over. Say bye bye during the bye?

We have really lost the last 4 games only 3 on paper.
IMHO Last week, we got a W. We won the battle against Denver but we did NOT win the war. We scored 1 TD and 5 FGs. Alex's offense racked up less than 200yds of passing, one TD pass, and wait for it. 79 total yards of rushing with 33 yds from Smith himself. Pathetic considering that the Donks racked up within 10 Yds of passing yards and nearly 100 more Yds on the ground. Hunt was held to... yeah, It's bad..46Yds. Denver's total yardage was 167 Yds higher than ours and we had Alex11 leading the league in umpteen different categories. We didn't win we settled for a "w"

Can tell me how the Bronco's defense is rated so good but yet is the same defense that the Eagles look like a small Scientology college team? (before getting their eyes plucked out they were ranked#3: Rankings don't mean shit, We were ranked, probably still are die to averages. How the **** can we justify our poor showing last week when a team we solidly beat makes whiney little bitches out of them? (51 points! YES 51!!!!)

When I look at the Denver stats and see 200yds from a 12 year veteran QB and 46yds by the leagues leading rusher, I don't see Denver as a great defense, I see the Chief's lack of an effective offense. Alex did not lead us to victory, Peters stole it from Denver. The Offense's piss poor performance earned a "w" just not a BIG ASS "W".

Yeah I know what you're going to say... But when push comes to shove, if Peters wouldn't have ripped the ball from Charles' grasp that game would have turned out differently. But I do feel your denial and you can argue all you want. We have been down this road and it doesn't work out well in the long term. I certainly hope that the taste of the Hemlock is to your liking. because unless a big change is made we will be looking at a wildcard game just to make the "real playoffs"

More about Denver later.

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The TD pass at the end of the half against the Cowboy's was the only offense we had in the 1st half, I must give Andy credit for looking a dire situation in the eye and making a call that sucker punched the Cowboys. Alex11 should NOT receive credit from Chief's fans or the record books for a TD that was purely Andy and Hill and Co.. Alex threw 20 yds and Hill preformed the magic after the catch, blowing past a stunned, almost deer in the headlights, Dallas defense. Give the Andy credit where it's due. his late night moments, sitting in his office (with a bottle of bourbon?) scheming sessions, payed off BIG TIME. Last week in Denver, not so much...

With a reputation for racking up yards and scoring big numbers Alex11's total 1st half offense (less the Hill catch and run) was limited to 82 yards, resulting in 3 points. The Hail Mary, catch and run, (now referred to as Hill Mary) was ****ing brilliant. Alex11 given the opportunity would have took a knee. Did you hear Romo? Thank the football gods for allowing Andy to dream up and the guts to call that play.
Once again, I can't give Alex11 any credit (maybe a footnote) for the 7 point miracle which will forever bear Hill's name. Alex had failed to move the ball throughout the 1st half and frankly; My dead Grandmother could have thrown the ball to Hill. The 3 Chiefs who blocked for Hill deserve more credit that Alex11.

Hill certainly looked amazing for a few seconds as he had been totally stifled at the line of scrimmage (less than 10 yds?) but in the face of 10 Cowboys somehow steered clear for a critical TD. Dallas, Tony Romo, Alex11, and the league were ****ing stunned by what will be forever referred to as The Hill Mary!!!! I am pretty sure that was a the kind of moment Andy dreams of when he is doing his due diligence unlike any other.

On the 1st possession of the 2nd half, With the momentum from the Hill TD, the offense stepped up, and for 6 minutes, the new and improved Alex11 appears, and leads the team 67 yards for a decisive TD. I'm thinking "HERE WE GO".

Dallas marches down the field 75 Yds in 12 plays and less than 6 and scores 21-17.
Our turn over the ball. 2 dead ball penalties (5Yds ea) and a sack later,; Alex's offense is 3 and out.

Dallas' offense walks it back into the End Zone. 13 plays, 87 yards, <7m 28-17

Alex11 runs 8 plays as the "old Alex" that are basically a series of short 3-6Yd passes, achieving one 1st down. Three downs later, Alex11 is looking at a "do or die" 4th and 8 and throws a 7 yard interception into heavy traffic and that's pretty much the game.

Face it Chiefs fans: Alex tried hard but if you look at the facts: Alex11 led 1 scoring drive in 4 Qtrs. of football, we turned in dismal numbers, and we got our ass served to us on a silver (and blue) platter.But those same numbers won vs Denver. Have you watched the highlights? It's the Hill Mary show for one play, 1 KC scoring drive, and for the next 22 minutes of Dallas shoving the ball down our throats. Not a pretty sight.

Before you go all Sutton on me... We were able to able to hold the Cowboys to 4 td's/ one per quarter and for a team such as Dallas to be contained by a crappy defense(#29?) like ours, is not all that bad. Most expected more.
Who was it that said to be successful in the NFL you must average 1 TD a quarter? Oh, Yeah, that was me!

If you remove the Hill Mary play we looked worse than any game played in this season or last. Taking the Hill Mary off the books,(-56 passing Yds) we see numbers from Alex11 vs, Dallas that look "déjà vu ish".
Total Yds 267
Passing 199Yds--Kelce 73 Yds (Top receiver)
rushing 68 Yds-- Hill 37Yds
offensive TD--1

If we look at the Denver game last week.
Total offense 276
Passing 197Yds--Kelce 133 Yds (Top receiver)
Rushing 79Yds-- Hill 46Yds
Offensive TD--1


I for one feel that maybe it is time to put an old dog out of his misery, (O.K. our misery) He has been a dedicated well seasoned, warrior who tried hard to learn new tricks, perfect new skills, and was doing very well for the first few hunts of the season. Soon Ol' Smitts started back sliding, when it came to the important hunts, he seemed to "bark up the wrong tree. Just couldn't get or keep anything going as of late. (Viagra or FlowMax pitchline?)

I think that Alex may have helped us get a AFCW championship tee shirt, (TBD) I don't think he is going to get us much more after the last 4 games. I am not saying to put him down but maybe send an equipment guy to Onestopfanshop.com and get him a soft bench and a spot by the space heater until his time with us is over.



I think it is time to urge Veatch, Reid, And Clark Hunt, to see the real writing is on the wall and during the bye put the final touches on Mahome's grooming and put plans in the works for his NFL debut in week 10.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:29 AM   #31
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calling Alex Smith by Alex11 isnt actually a thing is it?
I do it to piss off a certain person, so, not a thing.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:30 AM   #32
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You are such a ****ing ass, Why not tell the folks the whole story. They played 2 games at home since September scoring 30 + points a game. I don't call any team out when they lose after scoring 30 points.
Yes when we failed to score more than 10 points on offense* vs their 28 Hill Mary not included, than
They looked pretty dammed good with 4TDs and being able to walk the ball down the field and scoring all 4 TDs in the Red Zone

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Why does everyone not want to give our offense credit for the "Hill Mary" at the end of the half? I get it that our offense looked like complete garbage for much of the game, but that play was perfectly executed from the time Alex threw the pass until Hill crossed the goal line.

The lengths some of you dumbasses go to discredit Alex Smith?
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Old 11-06-2017, 10:09 AM   #33
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It all comes down to getting dominated up front. Defense and offense was pathetic yesterday.

If we're to the point where we consider conceding 28 points a solid defensive performance then we aren't going anywhere. Cowboy's have scored 28pts in 6 of 8 games, as the 29th ranked defense, I was happy with the Chief's defense. That is terrible defense. It's like being content an offense only scores 17. Not horrible, but not championship level. We lost every game (2), we have played that we didn't score 24 points or more a game.

The only reason this season isn't worse is because Smith balled out. But we must accept that Smith was never built to win shootout after shootout. He's a placeholder. This defense is giving up upwards of 23ppg. And we have Alex at quarterback. Not a Superbowl recipe
Actually our opposing team PPG was lower than 23PPG and because of our last 4 games PPG keeps getting higher. Our last 3 games our PPG was 26 and 4 games back it was 22. We have not been a team which stops the scoring of the other team but one that scores more than they do. Recently our scoring PPG was 34 4 weeks back and is now 28 with the last 3 games at 25.3PPG.

So IMFHO the problem is not the defense as much as it is the offense, Add 9 points to our scoring and our problems go away as we would be 8-1. which if I do say so is pretty ****ing respectable.

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Old 11-06-2017, 10:27 AM   #34
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Actually our opposing team PPG was lower than 23PPG and because of our last 4 games PPG keeps getting higher. Our last 3 games our PPG was 26 and 4 games back it was 22. We have not been a team which stops the scoring of the other team but one that scores more than they do. Recently our scoring PPG was 34 4 weeks back and is now 28 with the last 3 games at 25.3PPG.

So IMFHO the problem is not the defense as much as it is the offense, Add 9 points to our scoring and our problems go away as we would be 8-1. which if I do say so is pretty ****ing respectable
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Pretty much this. When the OL blocked, the Offense looked good. When the DL didn't get butt raped, the D did good.

We need to get healthy over the bye. Have the chance to get the starting OL back going forward which will improve the running game, and stop Alex from getting killed.

The defense is concerning, but I hope we can adjust to stop the run.
I don't call stopping the run the biggest problem Alex11 has failed to consistently keep putting up points. I said we must score 4td (1 per quarter ) to win in the NFL.

Dallas did just that and we didn't. When we did FG and D and ST's added on to that making an nice average of 34 points a game. Do you understand the principal? either we stop the other team from scoring or we score more. Our defense is not the slacker from which the bar was set.

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Yep. The game was lost yesterday in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball.

It's no secret that the Chiefs are soft.
The defense did better than the Rams, Green Bay,Redskins, Cards, and 49ers did as they all allowed 28 points or more. We in turn did not score anywhere near our averages.
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If that's the plan we better fix this line now.

You look around the league and the young QB's that were successful early like Dak and Wentz had very good lines in front of them.
its easier to fix an o-line than get top shelf secondary players and LB's.
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The defense did better than the Rams, Green Bay,Redskins, Cards, and 49ers did as they all allowed 28 points or more. We in turn did not score anywhere near our averages.
We held Zeke under his average per game.

Problem was a very average Dallas D held us below our average PPG...
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There it is.

Even healthy our line is very mediocre run blocking and pretty poor pass blocking. And that's with an elusive and scrambling QB that can avoid sacks when the pocked breaks down...


He only seemed elusive in the beginning of the 3rd quarter... I guess next you're going to tell be he threw a 56 yard bomb for a TD?
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Chiefs defense: #31 in yards allowed / #30 against the pass / #31 against the run / #20 in points allowed
I have been of the opinion that our defense has been the biggest factor in our recent losses.

However yesterday, our defense actually played fairly well, especially in limiting Elliot's damage. Our offense was responsible for repeatedly putting our defense back on the field.

Poor QB play, dumb penalties and poor play calling on offense was the major contributor to that loss.
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I'm have been of the opinion that our defense has been the biggest factor in our recent losses.
Chiefs offense first 5 games: 31.4 PPG
Chiefs offense last 4 games: 20.5 PPG

Chiefs defense first 5 games: 22.2 PPG allowed
Chiefs defense last 4 games: 24.2 PPG allowed

This team was established as an offense-first team. The offense has failed to live up to it's end of the bargain in 2 of the last 3 losses.
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He only seemed elusive in the beginning of the 3rd quarter... I guess next you're going to tell be he threw a 56 yard bomb for a TD?
He didn't?...
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Giving up nearly 30 points isn't what I would call a good Defensive day.

They would of been gashed for more if Dak were a little more on the mark. Even with that, Terrance Williams deep dicked them for almost 150.
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Giving up nearly 30 points isn't what I would call a good Defensive day.
Holding an elite offense under 30 at home is acceptable. It's 2017, not 1990.

The MVP-led top-ranked offense needs to do it's part.
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Thank God for the noobs on this board.

My lord we played a difficult schedule. Nobody in the modern NFL goes undefeated. Really, really good playoff teams go into the playoffs with 3-4 losses.

I mean I don't know how you guys do it. How do you come home every night to that fat ugly wife of yours and not just kill youself right there? Oh that's right, we have boobie thread on the planet. Nevermind.

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