2nd rd options - Page 6

RunKC · 02-03-2018, 05:55 PM

Here is a list of the newest 2nd rd mock from Matt Miller:

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33. Browns: CB Carlton Davis, Auburn

34. Giants: OT Kolton Miller, UCLA

35. Browns (from Texans): S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama

36. Colts: RB Kerryon Johnson, Auburn

37. Jets: CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville

38. Buccaneers: OG Braden Smith, Auburn

39. Bears: WR DJ Moore, Maryland

40. Broncos: OT Chukwuma Okorafor, Western Michigan

41. Raiders: RB Sony Michel, Georgia

42. Dolphins: TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State

43. Patriots (from 49ers): QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State

44. Washington: DL Derrick Nnadi, Florida State

45. Packers: LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

46. Bengals: LB Jerome Baker, Ohio State

47. Cardinals: QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville

48. Chargers: S Marcus Allen, Penn State

49. Jets (from Seahawks): EDGE Uchenna Nwosu, USC

50. Cowboys: DL Christian Wilkins, Clemson

51. Lions: DL Harrison Phillips, Stanford

52. Ravens: OT Desmond Harrison, West Georgia

53. Bills: DL Da'Shawn Hand, Alabama

54. Chiefs: CB Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State

55. Panthers: OT Martinas Rankin, Mississippi State

56. Bills (from Rams): TE Mark Andrews, Oklahoma

57. Titans: EDGE Marcus Davenport, UTSA

58. Falcons: TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State

59. Steelers: LB Lorenzo Carter, Georgia

60. 49ers (from Saints): RB Mark Walton, Miami

61. Vikings: OG Will Hernandez, UTEP

62. Jaguars: C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas

63. Patriots: OT Jamarco Jones, Ohio State

64. Browns (from Eagles): DL Taven Bryan, Florida

One minor thing here: Harrison Phillips is going in the first rd. Daniel Jeremiah already has him there based on what he’s heard.

CB seems to be the strong suit of this rd. Who else should we look at?

Mother****erJones · 02-25-2018, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Just a week ago I had it in my head that we’d soon be paying $18M per year for Peters, so I don’t mind the money aspect. If they can front load it, then yes I would.

I don’t see KC outbidding teams for him. I think they’re going to be acting crazy this FA but with smaller deals and maybe one big signing.

Mr Hammock · 02-25-2018, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Obviously things will change post-FA but I'd lean toward DL or LB right now.

Going to be some good stack linebackers available. Might the best approach.

RunKC · 02-25-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

A big issue however is the large amount of needs with the defense. The CB position does need upgraded, but we also need a NT, a WILB, depth or upgrade at ROLB, safety depth or upgrade at S.

Veach is going to have a major challenge filling all of these needs in logical succession.

It’s going to take more than 1 offseason to do this unfortunately. That’s how ****ing bad the defense is.

Dorsey ****ed this franchise hard

RunKC · 02-25-2018, 09:59 PM

Again for the people in the back: this is a deep DB class. There will be starting caliber corners in early rd 2.

A DL needs to be from FA. The odds of a 2nd rd DL being ready day 1 are not great.

staylor26 · 02-25-2018, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Again for the people in the back: this is a deep DB class. There will be starting caliber corners in early rd 2.

A DL needs to be from FA. The odds of a 2nd rd DL being ready day 1 are not great.

I disagree. If somebody like Bryan, Phillips, or Settle falls you have to take them. Either one of those guys can have an impact and taking a different position doesn’t guarantee anything.

I have a good feeling one of those guys makes it to us with this strong DL class.

You can still find DB’s that can have a day 1 impact in the 3rd.

O.city · 02-26-2018, 08:45 PM

They need to hit the depth during free agency. Get the big players cheap in the draft. Have to hit this draft out the park.

RunKC · 02-26-2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I disagree. If somebody like Bryan, Phillips, or Settle falls you have to take them. Either one of those guys can have an impact and taking a different position doesn’t guarantee anything.

I have a good feeling one of those guys makes it to us with this strong DL class.

You can still find DB’s that can have a day 1 impact in the 3rd.

I’d be shocked if any of those 3 fall past pick 35. I think they are first rd talents. At worst they will be picked first on day 2 IMO.

staylor26 · 02-26-2018, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I’d be shocked if any of those 3 fall past pick 35. I think they are first rd talents. At worst they will be picked first on day 2 IMO.

I see way too many people with those rated guys all over the place to say neither one will make it to us. There doesn’t seem to be anything close to a real consensus, and if they don’t make it I think somebody like Justin Reid or Leighton Vander Ech will.

Either way I think you take the best defensive player available and you don’t worry about whether their position usually gives you a day 1 impact. If we do that with all of our day 2 picks and we will do some damage.

Mother****erJones · 02-26-2018, 10:23 PM

Man so far I’m between Tim Settle and Hercules Mata’afa in round 2. Watching some Hercules right now. Very intriguing prospect.

O.city · 02-26-2018, 10:29 PM

I like Hercules

BryanBusby · 02-27-2018, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Man so far I’m between Tim Settle and Hercules Mata’afa in round 2. Watching some Hercules right now. Very intriguing prospect.

Settle and it's not a contest IMO.

Mother****erJones · 02-27-2018, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Settle and it's not a contest IMO.

A guy like Settle could do wonders for this defense. Like a young disruptive Poe

RunKC · 02-27-2018, 08:05 AM

I think Settle will be this years Vernon Butler. 2nd rd pick until the combine when teams know about him and move him to a late 1st rd value.

Nathan Shepherd might be a more realistic option

staylor26 · 02-27-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I think Settle will be this years Vernon Butler. 2nd rd pick until the combine when teams know about him and move him to a late 1st rd value.

Nathan Shepherd might be a more realistic option

I’d prefer to wait until the 3rd for guys like Shepherd, Brown, and Thompson.

RunKC · 02-27-2018, 08:55 AM

Interesting point by Kent Swanson on AP. Chiefs have multiple options in the draft.

Option A-Trade 2nd rd 54th pick (360 pts) & 3rd rd 78th pick (200 pts) for to move into the high 2nd rd for the player they want. The 34th pick is 560 pts.

Option B-trade our 2nd rd 54th pick and our later 3rd rd 86th pick (160 pts) to move up to around the 38th pick.

Option C-stay where you are with 3 picks in the top 100.

Veach says he wants youth and speed. Best way to do that is the draft.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1430389	I think Settle will be this years Vernon Butler. 2nd rd pick until the combine when teams know about him and move him to a late 1st rd value. Nathan Shepherd might be a more realistic option __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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02-27-2018, 08:55 AM	#90
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1430389	Interesting point by Kent Swanson on AP. Chiefs have multiple options in the draft. Option A-Trade 2nd rd 54th pick (360 pts) & 3rd rd 78th pick (200 pts) for to move into the high 2nd rd for the player they want. The 34th pick is 560 pts. Option B-trade our 2nd rd 54th pick and our later 3rd rd 86th pick (160 pts) to move up to around the 38th pick. Option C-stay where you are with 3 picks in the top 100. Veach says he wants youth and speed. Best way to do that is the draft. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 52,071