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Old 03-12-2018, 02:38 AM   #1
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If anything it showed a lack of preparation, which is bothersome. If he knocked his interview out the park then he shouldn't slide mucj.
The point is that he didn't have a bad combine. I don't know where you guys are getting that he had some atrocious combine. You want to see that, look up Orlando Brown. Even then, Brown wasn't THAT bad (he had a terrible 40 and terrible bench, to be expected from a guy 6'8").

You want to see the stats for another guy the Chiefs had a formal interview with?

Derrick Nnadi - 5.33 40, 27" vert, 3-cone of 8.15 at 317 pounds. He's expected to be a 3rd round pick.

Compare those numbers to most of the guards and centers that they'll be facing every day and you won't see much of a difference.

Teams don't care that much how nose tackles run in shorts. Teams care if they can play football. Tim Settle can play some damned football.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:52 AM   #2
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The point is that he didn't have a bad combine. I don't know where you guys are getting that he had some atrocious combine. You want to see that, look up Orlando Brown. Even then, Brown wasn't THAT bad (he had a terrible 40 and terrible bench, to be expected from a guy 6'8").

You want to see the stats for another guy the Chiefs had a formal interview with?

Derrick Nnadi - 5.33 40, 27" vert, 3-cone of 8.15 at 317 pounds. He's expected to be a 3rd round pick.

Compare those numbers to most of the guards and centers that they'll be facing every day and you won't see much of a difference.

Teams don't care that much how nose tackles run in shorts. Teams care if they can play football. Tim Settle can play some damned football.
Settle had a bad combine, did it crush his chances to be drafted? No, but creeping in the 1st round is a pipe dream for the kid.

KC will most likely visit Stanford and NC State who had stand out combine performances.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:52 PM   #3
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The point is that he didn't have a bad combine. I don't know where you guys are getting that he had some atrocious combine. You want to see that, look up Orlando Brown. Even then, Brown wasn't THAT bad (he had a terrible 40 and terrible bench, to be expected from a guy 6'8").

You want to see the stats for another guy the Chiefs had a formal interview with?

Derrick Nnadi - 5.33 40, 27" vert, 3-cone of 8.15 at 317 pounds. He's expected to be a 3rd round pick.

Compare those numbers to most of the guards and centers that they'll be facing every day and you won't see much of a difference.

Teams don't care that much how nose tackles run in shorts. Teams care if they can play football. Tim Settle can play some damned football.
You say that but the likes of Mike Mayock said it was horrible. Maybe that is partly because of what they were expecting. I don't know, but he had a bad combine in most analyst and scouts opinions. No offense but they know more than you or you wouldn't be on here. You would have been at the Combine for an NFL team.
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:59 PM   #4
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You say that but the likes of Mike Mayock said it was horrible. Maybe that is partly because of what they were expecting. I don't know, but he had a bad combine in most analyst and scouts opinions. No offense but they know more than you or you wouldn't be on here. You would have been at the Combine for an NFL team.
Dumbass.

That said in my best Dane voice...

Now that we've cleared the air (and by the way no offense necessarily was taken, although that was a sad attempt at a pot shot)...

I'm not at the combine because I choose to make more money than a hack scout by doing accounting. Of course, with one undergrad major in physical education, I more than have the prerequisite skills to assess body movement and become a scout but then I couldn't pleasure your asses with my hot takes.

Also, pundits talk out of both sides of their ass fairly consistently. I gave you the proof. You can't call a workout bad when I provided a list of recent top picks that have virtually identical numbers. Who was it bad compared to? Certainly not men of similar or lesser size that play a similar position. He's right there with a good percentage of his peers. Certainly not compared to the guards and centers that will be blocking him. So, then, what is it that was so horrendous? The fact is, you can't say it was and your only argument thus far is to say "well the pundits say so." If you called it slightly below average, then you'd probably have an argument. He wasn't quite as quick and didn't have quite the burst of some of his peers in shorts. You know what though, this is the game of football. The game of football isn't played in shorts and track shoes. Settle's tape is very good. I'll take good on the field over good in shorts every single day of the week and twice on Sundays, especially when we're arguing a goddamned nose tackle.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:28 AM   #5
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Dumbass.

That said in my best Dane voice...

Now that we've cleared the air (and by the way no offense necessarily was taken, although that was a sad attempt at a pot shot)...

I'm not at the combine because I choose to make more money than a hack scout by doing accounting. Of course, with one undergrad major in physical education, I more than have the prerequisite skills to assess body movement and become a scout but then I couldn't pleasure your asses with my hot takes.

Also, pundits talk out of both sides of their ass fairly consistently. I gave you the proof. You can't call a workout bad when I provided a list of recent top picks that have virtually identical numbers. Who was it bad compared to? Certainly not men of similar or lesser size that play a similar position. He's right there with a good percentage of his peers. Certainly not compared to the guards and centers that will be blocking him. So, then, what is it that was so horrendous? The fact is, you can't say it was and your only argument thus far is to say "well the pundits say so." If you called it slightly below average, then you'd probably have an argument. He wasn't quite as quick and didn't have quite the burst of some of his peers in shorts. You know what though, this is the game of football. The game of football isn't played in shorts and track shoes. Settle's tape is very good. I'll take good on the field over good in shorts every single day of the week and twice on Sundays, especially when we're arguing a goddamned nose tackle.
I agree with Crow. I think it may just be that people get hard ons for big guys doing well at things big guys should not be good at, e.g. people creaming their pants over Vita Vea's 40 time (even though he tweaked his hamstring) comparatively makes Settle look worse for being bad at something a big guy should be bad at, especially because the 40 time is irrelevant.
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Dumbass.

That said in my best Dane voice...

Now that we've cleared the air (and by the way no offense necessarily was taken, although that was a sad attempt at a pot shot)...

I'm not at the combine because I choose to make more money than a hack scout by doing accounting. Of course, with one undergrad major in physical education, I more than have the prerequisite skills to assess body movement and become a scout but then I couldn't pleasure your asses with my hot takes.

Also, pundits talk out of both sides of their ass fairly consistently. I gave you the proof. You can't call a workout bad when I provided a list of recent top picks that have virtually identical numbers. Who was it bad compared to? Certainly not men of similar or lesser size that play a similar position. He's right there with a good percentage of his peers. Certainly not compared to the guards and centers that will be blocking him. So, then, what is it that was so horrendous? The fact is, you can't say it was and your only argument thus far is to say "well the pundits say so." If you called it slightly below average, then you'd probably have an argument. He wasn't quite as quick and didn't have quite the burst of some of his peers in shorts. You know what though, this is the game of football. The game of football isn't played in shorts and track shoes. Settle's tape is very good. I'll take good on the field over good in shorts every single day of the week and twice on Sundays, especially when we're arguing a goddamned nose tackle.
Don't you mean Milkman?
Hey man I am proud for you that you have a degree in Accounting and believe in your own evaluations of players. If you are all about money. A scout is the first step to either a coaching or management position in the NFL. Money is good but money from doing something you love is the easiest money a person will ever earn.

We will see what NFL teams think about Settle. I think SNR said it best.
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People are going nuts over Tim Settle, but I really wouldn't be surprised after his combine fall from grace to see him get the Jerrell Powe/Cam Thomas treatment from teams and have him fall to the 5th/6th rounds while Chiefs fans go nuts every time Veach passes on him.

It's the same shit as those years. We needed big guys in the middle, and for whatever reason, we weren't able to use our high picks on the position. They eye this one particular dude who looks decent in college, peg him as the ideal 3rd round pick or so, and then when he gets passed multiple times, they go apeshit.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:07 PM   #7
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Don't you mean Milkman?
Hey man I am proud for you that you have a degree in Accounting and believe in your own evaluations of players. If you are all about money. A scout is the first step to either a coaching or management position in the NFL. Money is good but money from doing something you love is the easiest money a person will ever earn.

We will see what NFL teams think about Settle. I think SNR said it best.
Yeah, lol, probably milkman... I don't keep track of that shit much.

I did look into scouting a few years back and what some "seminars/courses" would cost. But, with kids, it just isn't the life I can afford to have. I'm happy doing what I do at the moment and if that changes, who knows.

I don't agree with SNR on Settle. I don't think he's the lazy guy that a guy like Thomas was coming out, etc. I also don't think he has blinders on when he's on the field. I think he absolutely gives it all on the field and he's done some work to get where he is with his weight. I think a team keeps him at or under 340, he's going to be pretty good in this league. He definitely makes plays away from his frame and is aware of where the ball is going. That's 90% of the battle at NT. The rest is having the strength and technique to make sure you can get there.
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