2018 STL Cardinals Thread

[BigRedChief]

Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster

Spoiler!

St. Louis has opted to carry 12 position players and 13 pitchers to begin the new season, with a four-man bench and eight-man bullpen.

Outfielders:
Dexter Fowler
Tommy Pham
Marcell Ozuna

Infielders:
Matt Carpenter
Paul DeJong
Kolten Wong

Catchers:
Yadier Molina
Francisco Pena

Utility:
Jose Martinez
Greg Garcia
Yairo Munoz
Jedd Gyrko

Starters:
Carlos Martinez
Michael Wacha
Luke Weaver
Miles Mikolas
Jack Flaherty

Relievers:
Dominic Leone
Tyler Lyons
Bud Norris
Brett Cecil
Sam Tuivailala
Matt Bowman
Jordan Hicks
Mike Mayers

On the DL:
Adam Wainwright
Luke Gregerson

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

That sucks. Done in by a fire alarm and Fowler playing right field. Bader catches that ball.

no doubt. Bader gets to that ball.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Yeah I’m not sure why he was playing so god damn deep.

After the Meathead firing, everyone in the Cardinals organization said they are playing to win. Putting one of the bottom 5 hitters in the league with bad defense in RF over a clearly better player tells us that’s just BS spin. I’m sure the locker room knows that truth too.

And even if you think Fowler is a better option than Bader offensively, you just made “defensive” moves with other positions, why didn’t you pull Fowler and put Bader in? We’d still have the lead, maybe.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

no doubt. Bader gets to that ball.

The Fowler thing has to be coming from Mo. No excuse he is getting playing time over Bader. Just fake an injury Dexter and go away until spring training.

[Rams Fan]

**** this.

[Marcellus]

This team is no fun to watch. Fire the incompetent duck manager and they still lay down.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

This team is no fun to watch. Fire the incompetent duck manager and they still lay down.

its not looking good for the interim manager.

[BigRedChief]

I’ve seen Munoz make two game saving good defensive plays in the last two games. Is that outliers or has he got better.

He’s hitting .324 since May. We could use that offense in the lineup.

DJ and Hamas are you guys sure Munoz is not salvageable as a major leaguer?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

its not looking good for the interim manager.

Holland was coming in if Fowler doesn't homer

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Holland was coming in if Fowler doesn't homer

I wonder if he got marching orders to play Cecil, Fowler and Holland as part of the deal to become interim?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’ve seen Munoz make two game saving good defensive plays in the last two games. Is that outliers or has he got better.

He’s hitting .324 since May. We could use that offense in the lineup.

DJ and Hamas are you guys sure Munoz is not salvageable as a major leaguer?

He's a major league player, but he's much more likely to be a utility guy than someone whose bat profiles somewhere. His defense is limited in that places where his bat would be OK, like short or second, which will lead to him giving up a ton of runs. Matt Carpenter has actually been a better defender than Munoz this year (and not a better defender at first than Munoz at short, a better defender, period). He seems like the kind of guy that can have a .330 BABIP, but if it drops from .360 to .330 then he's a .260 hitter with a bad glove and middling power. A good guy to plug a gap, but not someone you want to run out there for weeks at a time. He is the perfect TLR role player, but that's all he is.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

its not looking good for the interim manager.

I'd say the part where he IBB'd the tying run with two outs in the 11th should say all you need to know about his managerial prowess. The great thing managers have going for them is that even their dumbest decisions work out 50-70% of the time. He got lucky as ****.

[Marco Polo]

Jon Morosi of MLB.com reports that the Cardinals will release Greg Holland.

Holland cost the Cardinals $14 million and they had to forfeit a draft pick. In return, they got a 7.92 ERA over 32 appearances from the veteran reliever. Ouch. Holland should catch on elsewhere now that he can be had at the veteran minimum, but his days as an effective reliever might be over.

[Marco Polo]

If the Yankees decide to add a temporary fix in Judge’s absence, an interesting name: Jose Martinez. He can flat-out rake and could be DH, with Stanton playing RF. Other market possibilities: Granderson, maybe Michael Taylor if Nats sell, maybe McCutchen if SF sells— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) July 27, 2018

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

Jon Morosi of MLB.com reports that the Cardinals will release Greg Holland.

Holland cost the Cardinals $14 million and they had to forfeit a draft pick. In return, they got a 7.92 ERA over 32 appearances from the veteran reliever. Ouch. Holland should catch on elsewhere now that he can be had at the veteran minimum, but his days as an effective reliever might be over.

Stealing $14M should be a crime. Goddamn that guy.

But at least the bleeding will stop.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’ve seen Munoz make two game saving good defensive plays in the last two games. Is that outliers or has he got better.

He’s hitting .324 since May. We could use that offense in the lineup.

DJ and Hamas are you guys sure Munoz is not salvageable as a major leaguer?

Who said he's not a major leaguer?

I don't think he's a particularly good major leaguer. He's a bit of a tweener in that his offense won't play at 3b and his defense won't play anywhere else. He's a born utility player, IMO.

He's a fine guy to have as the 23rd dude on your roster. On this roster, OTOH, he's just another flawed, forgettable baseball player who has holes in his swing and hits from the right side.

If you could trade him for a version of him that hits lefthanded, I'd friggen love to get my hands on that guy. The problem isn't Munoz as much as it is his fit in STL.