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Old 08-02-2018, 09:49 AM   #1
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I wouldn't be. They've already alluded to that they think it's the players fault from last year and not Suttons. Which is why they completely overhauled the defense.

If the Chiefs finish at or near the bottom of the league again like last year, I'll bet money on it that Sutton is sent packing, as there will be no more excuses for him . . . .
We're going to see.....
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:50 AM   #2
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We're going to see.....
Yeah, I definitely agree it's a make or break year for him.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:07 AM   #3
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I thought Pete was just "DC loony." Apparently it carries over into football takes. That's unfortunate. Get well soon!
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:09 AM   #4
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When I'm pessimistic, I estimate we're entering the era of the Culpepper Vikings or the Stafford Lions.

When I'm cautiously hopeful, I estimate we're entering McNabb 2.0

When I daydream, I daydream we're charting new territory.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:10 AM   #5
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When I'm pessimistic, I estimate we're entering the era of the Culpepper Vikings or the Stafford Lions.

When I'm cautiously hopeful, I estimate we're entering McNabb 2.0

When I daydream, I daydream we're charting new territory.
Let's hope it's this...I think our offense is going to tear shit up. I just would like to see our defense improve.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:13 AM   #6
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They gave up 22 points in a playoff game and lost. Gave up 18 to the Steelers at home, lost. 27 on the road in New England. Lost.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:15 AM   #7
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They gave up 22 points in a playoff game and lost. Gave up 18 to the Steelers at home, lost. 27 on the road in New England. Lost.
I never said the offense was without blame. But the fact is the offense put the defense in great position twice in the playoffs and they choked.

And the Steelers game, yeah 18 points. What was the average ToP for the Steelers that game?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:17 AM   #8
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I never said the offense was without blame. But the fact is the offense put the defense in great position twice in the playoffs and they choked.

And the Steelers game, yeah 18 points. What was the average ToP for the Steelers that game?
I don't remember seeing TOP on the scoreboard at the end of the game.

In the end, they held the Steeler offense to field goals and 18 points. You've gotta win that game.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:18 AM   #9
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I don't remember seeing TOP on the scoreboard at the end of the game.

In the end, they held the Steeler offense to field goals and 18 points. You've gotta win that game.
Yeah, cause the Steelers putting together long, time-consuming drives had nothing to do with that game.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:20 AM   #10
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Yeah, cause the Steelers putting together long, time-consuming drives had nothing to do with that game.
Ok, sure?

Once they held them to field goals they got the ball to the offense which shit everywhere.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:15 AM   #11
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No, it's not Vermiel 2.0

They're actually TRYING to address defensive problems

and the overall talent level is much higher

Will the D be great? No. But it won't be Bartee and Warfield back there either.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:16 AM   #12
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No, it's not Vermiel 2.0

They're actually TRYING to address defensive problems

and the overall talent level is much higher

Will the D be great? No. But it won't be Bartee and Warfield back there either.
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I think Vermeil "tried". I am not saying they are shooting for Vermeil style team either. Just questioning if that is what we are heading for at the moment, regardless of intent by the front office\coahces, etc.?
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:25 AM   #13
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I think Vermeil "tried". I am not saying they are shooting for Vermeil style team either. Just questioning if that is what we are heading for at the moment, regardless of intent by the front office\coahces, etc.?
Do you? I think he didn't. I genuinely felt like he didn't care and told his assistants / dc "here you go, do what you can, kthxbai."
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:27 AM   #14
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Do you? I think he didn't. I genuinely felt like he didn't care and told his assistants / dc "here you go, do what you can, kthxbai."
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I will say be made some effort as long as it wasn't at the expense of the offense. But in St. Louis he had a defense in the top 5 the year they won the SB. So he wasn't hell bent on a formula of all offense, no defense.
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I will say be made some effort as long as it wasn't at the expense of the offense. But in St. Louis he had a defense in the top 5 the year they won the SB. So he wasn't hell bent on a formula of all offense, no defense.
Top 5 by what metric?
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