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Old 02-07-2019, 01:06 PM  
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:11 AM   #136
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:31 AM   #137
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He's been too busy meeting with lawyers and financial planners to meet with medical experts. The important thing is to lock in the money. The time for the surgery was last August. He has had 6 months to figure out how to get back on the field. He chose to do nothing. The Chiefs need to find the most cap-friendly way to part company with him.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:36 AM   #138
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:27 AM   #139
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The way this Berry deal has blown up in KCs face has probably impacted the safety FA market significantly.

Look at the way teams avoided signing top safeties last year and how many were rumored to be on the trade market during the season. Dix, Thomas, Collins, etc.

Teams are terrified of being taken advantage of like what happened to KC.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:29 AM   #140
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He's not going to retire. He's due a huge paycheck in 2019, and most likely if he gets the surgery it becomes guaranteed. The cap benefit of cutting him later isn't great, so I think we are stuck with him for 2019. Let's just hope he can contribute after the surgery.

I think it's more likely Berry is on the team than Houston. There are real cap savings cutting Houston.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:36 AM   #141
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The way this Berry deal has blown up in KCs face has probably impacted the safety FA market significantly.

Look at the way teams avoided signing top safeties last year and how many were rumored to be on the trade market during the season. Dix, Thomas, Collins, etc.

Teams are terrified of being taken advantage of like what happened to KC.
I think you're reaching here.

None of this issue has to do with him being a safety so why would it impact other safety contracts? Makes no sense.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:45 AM   #142
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I think you're reaching here.

None of this issue has to do with him being a safety so why would it impact other safety contracts? Makes no sense.
I think teams are looking at the impact safeties make in relation to cost and are determining the risk to reward ratio for safeties is similar to running backs. Berry represents the risk portion.
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I think teams are looking at the impact safeties make in relation to cost and are determining the risk to reward ratio for safeties is similar to running backs. Berry represents the risk portion.
IMO you're wrong. He didn't represent the risk of being a safety in relation to a contract.

His injuries aren't related to being a safety.

All positions rupture achilles. The bone spur happens.

Teams aren't looking at eric berry and his contract and using the logic that's he's been injured and deciding to not pay safeties.

Now if he had concussion issues you might be on to something. Or shoulder issues.
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The way this Berry deal has blown up in KCs face has probably impacted the safety FA market significantly.

Look at the way teams avoided signing top safeties last year and how many were rumored to be on the trade market during the season. Dix, Thomas, Collins, etc.

Teams are terrified of being taken advantage of like what happened to KC.
I think it's just another memory teams will have in the back of their mind when they're considering "paying" a player.

It doesn't mean they won't, but I think some may think a little longer because nobody wants to be Berry'd.
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I think it's just another memory teams will have in the back of their mind when they're considering "paying" a player.

It doesn't mean they won't, but I think some may think a little longer because nobody wants to be Berry'd.
Then teams will be hesitant to sign ANY player to a big deal.
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Then teams will be hesitant to sign ANY player to a big deal.
Yes. That was my point.
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He's not going to retire. He's due a huge paycheck in 2019, and most likely if he gets the surgery it becomes guaranteed. The cap benefit of cutting him later isn't great, so I think we are stuck with him for 2019. Let's just hope he can contribute after the surgery.

I think it's more likely Berry is on the team than Houston. There are real cap savings cutting Houston.
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Berry can get a taste of his selfish ways when he sees his best friend getting the axe because of his inaction regarding the heel injury.
Not much the Chiefs can do about his contract. Berry holds all the cards here. If he is still holding a grudge over the insurance coverage payment, then screw him - every other gm/owner/franchise would have done the same. Hunt made Berry’s family set for life, and now he is acting like an entitled ass.

Reid/Veach/Hunt all see that Mahomes is the unquestioned leader of this team and the new face of the NFL. Eric Berry’s legacy is ever-eroding and he will be but just a mention in Chiefs football history. Get over yourself Eric. Be happy you are alive....
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I am sure Heel be ready to work out a team friendly deal

The team, EB 29 and his agent will Haglund find a solution.

Probably just waiting for someone to spur the conversations
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Pretty much everybody reported that the players were okay with it. IIRC, Justin Houston said in an interview he knew why it had to be done.

Sounds like the RGR guys are pulling stuff out of their derrière's.
Whatever the case, the Chiefs need to win a SB quickly if for no other reason than finally being able to put the kid gloves to bed, and begin working like a franchise assembling and trading ASSETS to the advantage of the team, NOT individual players.
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Berry can get a taste of his selfish ways when he sees his best friend getting the axe because of his inaction regarding the heel injury.
Not much the Chiefs can do about his contract. Berry holds all the cards here. If he is still holding a grudge over the insurance coverage payment, then screw him - every other gm/owner/franchise would have done the same. Hunt made Berry’s family set for life, and now he is acting like an entitled ass.

Reid/Veach/Hunt all see that Mahomes is the unquestioned leader of this team and the new face of the NFL. Eric Berry’s legacy is ever-eroding and he will be but just a mention in Chiefs football history. Get over yourself Eric. Be happy you are alive....
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