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Old 04-24-2019, 11:44 AM  
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Major Update on Tyreek Hill [old thread, don't freak out]


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Old 04-24-2019, 02:55 PM   #721
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LOL ... I was 100% with you until that sentence.

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Old 04-24-2019, 02:55 PM   #722
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Just sign him now. Could get him for about 10-12 mil a year instead of 20
I'd be down with that as long as the up-front money was nil and the contract had an iron-clad escape clause for any personal conduct issues.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:55 PM   #723
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Woof. Florio telling Pryor to hold his beer.
Yep. Whether Hill did it or not, Goodell has no ability to punish Hill's mom or wife, so Hill need not take the 5th. He'll just lie.

Problem for the NFL, the Chiefs, and for Hill is he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion. I don't know what goes down here. If Hill wasn't a premier talent, he'd be gone.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:55 PM   #724
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I'm trying to think of other NFL precedents.

Wasn't Adrian Peterson suspended for overly disciplining his son? Or was it something else?
Yep he was and I expect Tyreek will be suspended to.


This isn't over and we need to see what the Chiefs will do, it wouldn't surprise me if they cut him.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:55 PM   #725
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Oh hell yes I remember all of that. I do believe he said it would "shake the NFL to its foundations", or something along that line.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:56 PM   #726
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The thing I don’t get is, if Tyreek violently broke his sons arm and is covering it up, why did he post a pic with the kid in a cast on social media back when it happened?

Some things just don’t make much sense here and I honestly think it’s a legitimate possibility that the kids broken arm was more of an accident, maybe due to bad parenting, but not necessarily violence.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:56 PM   #727
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Yep he was and I expect Tyreek will be suspended to.


This isn't over and we need to see what the Chiefs will do, it wouldn't surprise me if they cut him.
AP had evidence tho. Tyreek does not. It’s he said she said. You really gonna suspend a player when you yourself don’t have all the facts
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"If he won’t talk to the league, he’s guilty. If he talks to the league but he tells a story that isn’t believable or consistent, he’s guilty. If Espinal tries to take the blame but does so in a way that, given her clear financial interest in protecting Hill, seems flimsy or not credible, he’s guilty."

My advice, make changes in your personal life. I mean hire a ****ing nanny if you need too. Then accept whatever punishment the NFL gives you. Then move on. If Hill gives one inch, the NFL and PC gods will crush him.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:56 PM   #729
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Yep. Whether Hill did it or not, Goodell has no ability to punish Hill's mom or wife, so Hill need not take the 5th. He'll just lie.

Problem for the NFL, the Chiefs, and for Hill is he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion. I don't know what goes down here. If Hill wasn't a premier talent, he'd be gone.
The 5th amendment doesn't apply in a private setting. He could try to plead the 5th and Goodell could simply suspend him for not complying with the investigation.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:57 PM   #730
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If it turns out that Tyreek did not abuse his son and is only protecting someone that did, would you condone that?
Holy shit. Well, you caught me ... I suppose I have to confess now ...

Yeah ... actually, I've been praying every night that somebody would abuse Tyreek's kid.

Wait a minute ... not just his kid ... any random kid. And lots of them. Let 'em all have it. Spiral fractures for everybody under the age of 4!

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Old 04-24-2019, 02:57 PM   #731
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The thing I don’t get is, if Tyreek violently broke his sons arm and is covering it up, why did he post a pic with the kid in a cast on social media back when it happened?

Some thing just don’t make much sense here and I honestly think it’s a legitimate possibility that the kids broken arm was more of an accident, maybe due to bad parenting, but not necessarily violence.
Of course you think that. You're the biggest homer on this site.
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AP had evidence tho. Tyreek does not. It’s he said she said. You really gonna suspend a player when you yourself don’t have all the facts
What evidence did the AP case have beyond the kid's injuries and the testimony of someone who said it happened?
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To be clear, I don't fault you for having a personal perspective. In fact, I encourage stuff like that. I just wouldn't want you in a jury box judging me ... if it ever down came to it. Depending on the court, the defendant gets a few vetos during the selection process. No offense, but I think I'd use one of mine for you. Look on the bright side though; no dollar-a-day jury duty.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:58 PM   #734
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Yep he was and I expect Tyreek will be suspended to.


This isn't over and we need to see what the Chiefs will do, it wouldn't surprise me if they cut him.


Come on, now. You'd be the only one not surprised if the Chiefs cut him. Lol

At this point even if he does get suspended, he's going to appeal. What will he lose his appeal over? Goodell's opinion on the highlights he's read of the case?
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The DA was explicit that he wouldn't discuss whether others were in the home or around the kid. If there was family around or staying at the neighbors or whatever, that widens the pool of potentials considerably and makes "beyond a reasonable doubt" pretty much impossible

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Yeah, I meant to emphasize that earlier.

We don't even know if the pool of suspects goes beyond the two parents. We may be talking about Hill being suspended for something someone else did, not even he or cyrstal.

And I don't say this as a conspiracy theory. We - literally - do not know the specifics. Because they will not tell us (they being the da).

That's why I'm not sure what's going to happen. Maybe what the NFL will discover is that he literally had nothing to do with it.

Or maybe he did. I don't know.

A lot of folks are acting like they do....
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