Punctuation of “Dumb Bitch”

[Brooklyn]

Was thinking about this for a while, and with the end of the saga here, I want to get everyone’s thoughts. If you actually listen to the tape and hear the sentence structure for what it is, the ”awful” thing Reek said sounds even less offensive.

“You need to be terrified of me too. Dumb bitch.”

“You need to be terrified of me too, dumb bitch.”

I contest that the way he said it is the first, which to me is less offensive. It also speaks to the whole non violent/I will expose you angle. There is such a long pause in between the two sentences and they are totally separate thoughts. It’s actually almost like he’s saying it to himself, about her. Like an under the breath muttering or observation that we all sometimes internalize when we see something ridiculous.

The second one, which is how most people interpret it off paper, is a single thought, and the “dumb bitch” is firmly targeted and directed to Crystal in a way meant to offend her. It’s aggressive to add the insult to the end of the threat.

Anyone else see/hear a difference?


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[rabblerouser]

Sure, I get what you're getting at.

She IS a dumb bitch. She needed to be afraid of him, too.

He stopped paying her parents' house payment. Her free ride was over.

[dj56dt58]

Didn’t kctv5 edit out the word dumb? I remember listening to the full audio and how much different that one line came off compared to the edited version

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Well the most obvious part that puts it into context is the what follows. "That's why you can't keep a man." Obviously he's saying she's being untruthful and nobody wants to be around her because of the drama she stirs up. This whole thing was blown way out of proportion. Sadly, people who dont care about Tyreek will not accept this. Irreparable harm has been dealt to Tyreek's reputation. I have no concern for the safety of his son when in the care of Tyreek either.

[loochy]

Well, according to Brooke, black men don't use punctuation.

[digger]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Didn’t kctv5 edit out the word dumb? I remember listening to the full audio and how much different that one line came off compared to the edited version

And did Bitch sound louder in the TV5 version vs the full audio? Would like to see a side by side.

[dj56dt58]

Originally Posted by digger

And did Bitch sound louder in the TV5 version vs the full audio? Would like to see a side by side.

Yes I thought so too. You can’t excuse something like that even if they play the rest of the editing off as just removing unimportant stuff

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by digger

And did Bitch sound louder in the TV5 version vs the full audio? Would like to see a side by side.

If that's true, then...well, I guess it would be continued confirmation of how Angie Ricono is horrible, incompetent, unethical garbage who should be fired immediately before she railroads other innocent people.
But we already knew that.

[displacedinMN]

Not defending anyone. But when you are listening to voice. The transcriber can interpret things in a variety of ways.

As noted in this article.

Spoiler!

According to the Oxford Dictionary, punctuation is defined as “the marks, such as full stop, comma, and brackets, used in writing to separate sentences and their elements and to clarify meaning”. Columbia University Press states: “In English, stress, pausing, and tonal changes interlock in a set of patterns often called intonations. Such features are represented by punctuation, indicated by signs inserted usually between words, and often following the feature they mark.”



It is clear from these definitions that punctuation serves an important purpose in writing, allowing us to separate sentences, showing us where to pause, where to place emphasis on particular words, and in clarifying the meaning of written language. Missing or overused punctuation marks can change meaning and/or confuse the reader. In extreme cases, ambiguous sentences that are hard to decipher can be misinterpreted, putting lives at risk. For example, unclear instructions on the use of mechanical equipment, or on medication packaging, could lead to fatal errors.



Fortunately, most of the time, poor use of punctuation creates amusement rather than life-threatening danger. Here are a few well-known humorous examples found on the Internet:



“Most of the time, travellers worry about their luggage” versus “Most of the time travellers worry about their luggage”. In reading the second sentence one could be excused for thinking of time-travellers who are concerned about losing their luggage while crossing the boundaries of the time and space continuum!



“We’re going to learn to cut and paste kids!” versus “We’re going to learn to cut and paste, kids!” Commas certainly do make a difference.



“Let’s eat, grandpa” versus “Let’s eat grandpa”. Punctuation can potentially save lives!



The rogue use of a full stop after the second sentence in the following example (from a sign on a building) has changed the meaning of the message, and instead of conveying a kind thank you has concluded it with a rather rude directive: “Thank you! Your donation just helped someone. Get a job.” I am sure that causing offence was not the intention of the writer!



For many modern employers, poor spelling and punctuation received on job applications is a source of constant frustration. Here is a contemporary example from someone’s résumé: “Interests include: Cooking dogs, shopping, dancing, reading, watching movies …” The missing comma after “cooking” makes this person look rather sinister (or at least quite silly), don’t you think?



Following is another popular demonstration of the way that punctuation can change meaning. This example has gone viral on the Internet: “An English professor wrote the words: ‘A woman without her man is nothing’ on the chalkboard and asked his students to punctuate it correctly. All of the males in the class wrote: ‘A woman, without her man, is nothing.’ All the females in the class wrote: ‘A woman: without her, man is nothing.’ Punctuation is powerful.” You can definitely say that again!



Perhaps one of the most academically debated punctuation marks is that of the ‘Oxford comma’. The Oxford comma is an optional comma before the word ‘and’ at the end of a list:



Please bring me a cup, saucer, and spoon.



The origins of the Oxford comma are difficult to determine, however it has traditionally been used by printers, readers, and editors at the Oxford University Press. Although not standard protocol for all writers and publishers, it can clarify the meaning of a sentence when the items in a list are not single words:



These scarves are available in black and white, pink and purple, and blue and green.



Omitting the Oxford comma can sometimes result in odd misunderstandings:



I love my parents, Kylie Minogue and Kermit the Frog.



Without the Oxford comma, the sentence above could be interpreted as stating that you love your parents, and your parents are Kylie Minogue and Kermit the Frog!



Here is the same sentence with the Oxford comma:



I love my parents, Kylie Minogue, and Kermit the Frog.



As these examples show, mastering the use of punctuation is as relevant today as it was many centuries ago!

[BWillie]

The only possible thing he COULD have been suspended for was telling her she should have been frightened of him too. Don't really care about the dumb bitch part quite honestly. Was just a really bad thing to say considering their history, even if it didn't happen the way Crystal said it did.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

It’s ridiculous to put into context a private conversation during an argument with your girlfriend/spouse. I’ve called my wife names in the heat of battle as has she called me names. I think this is true of many many relationships. Everyone needs to look at their arguments with their significant other and what you have said to them and determine if that would look good in the public eye and how it probably not an accurate portrayal of our every day life. I’ve been married over 28 years and have said worse and have been called just as bad by my wife. It’s called fighting. We have never physically harmed each other and from all indications Tyreek hasn’t touched her in a physical way since the “situation” in OKC In 2014. Some of these sports radio personalities most likely have said the same or worse to someone they were fighting with at sometime.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

It’s ridiculous to put into context a private conversation during an argument with your girlfriend/spouse. I’ve called my wife names in the heat of battle as has she called me names. I think this is true of many many relationships.

Incel.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by BWillie

The only possible thing he COULD have been suspended for was telling her she should have been frightened of him too. Don't really care about the dumb bitch part quite honestly. Was just a really bad thing to say considering their history, even if it didn't happen the way Crystal said it did.

I call my dog dumb bitch all the time.

She knows it, I know it, and I ain't getting suspended for it.

[Hammock Parties]

it's spelled "dumb bitch" but it's pronounced c-r-y-s-t-a-l-e-s-p-i-n-a-l

[Chargem]

I mean, he was in an airport. Maybe he saw someone doing something dumb and was like "dumb bitch" just saying what he saw.