Jarran Reed suspended for 6 games

[Hammock Parties]

Guess he wasn't the victim of an extortion plot.

Sources: #Seahawks standout DL Jarran Reed is being suspended 6 games for a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy for an incident from early 2017. He was not charged or arrested. His appeal was denied Friday morning. Huge on-field impact.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 22, 2019

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem with public discourse these days is that no one is capable of understanding that situations are complex. Everyone wants to take 2-3 bullet points and assume they know everything that's going on.

I was as surprised as anyone that Tyreek wasn't suspended, but I wasn't in the room for 8.5 hours. I don't know enough about Reed to know if 6 games is too harsh. I just wish people were more comfortable saying, "I don't know, so therefore I'll trust the people who do."

Everybody demands transparency these days, too. Yeah, it'd be nice if the full truth was always available, but sometimes it's just not, and then people get outraged if they can't view the full play-by-play and critique every step of the process.

Even Mike Florio. The guy has OBVIOUSLY invested a lot of his time into observing the events unfold in this Tyreek Hill situation. Yet he goes, "Ummm excuse me, Goodell! You missed something! Tyreek threatened Crystal on the recording!!"

No, they didn't miss something. They knew it was there, and in the hours of investigation they completed in which they obtained information that Florio nor any of the public is privy to, they determined that comment was not a physical threat. They didn't twirl their mustaches and go, "Curse that Mike Florio for sharing the truth with everybody! But how do we proceed with our evil plan to make sure peoples' fantasy teams don't have to suffer without Tyreek Hill for any stretch of the season????"

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

They knew it was there, and in the hours of investigation they completed in which they obtained information that Florio nor any of the public is privy to, they determined that comment was not a physical threat.

Context, context, context is everything and apparently Reed's context did not bode well for him.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem with public discourse these days is that no one is capable of understanding that situations are complex. Everyone wants to take 2-3 bullet points and assume they know everything that's going on.

I was as surprised as anyone that Tyreek wasn't suspended, but I wasn't in the room for 8.5 hours. I don't know enough about Reed to know if 6 games is too harsh. I just wish people were more comfortable saying, "I don't know, so therefore I'll trust the people who do."

This!

But Mommy bought you a candy bar and Not me!!!!!!

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem with public discourse these days is that no one is capable of understanding.

Could have stopped right there.

Yesterday I heard NFL Network talking about Hill’s son’s broken arm. In the first paragraph of Peter King’s Column he talks about the broken arm. I can understand why people are confused and upset when media and leading NFL commentators keep repeating the same misinformation over and over again, but at some point Hill needs to have his lawyers come out with the facts to refute the BS that is being repeated by people who should know better.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Everybody demands transparency these days, too. Yeah, it'd be nice if the full truth was always available, but sometimes it's just not, and then people get outraged if they can't view the full play-by-play and critique every step of the process.

Even Mike Florio. The guy has OBVIOUSLY invested a lot of his time into observing the events unfold in this Tyreek Hill situation. Yet he goes, "Ummm excuse me, Goodell! You missed something! Tyreek threatened Crystal on the recording!!"

No, they didn't miss something. They knew it was there, and in the hours of investigation they completed in which they obtained information that Florio nor any of the public is privy to, they determined that comment was not a physical threat. They didn't twirl their mustaches and go, "Curse that Mike Florio for sharing the truth with everybody! But how do we proceed with our evil plan to make sure peoples' fantasy teams don't have to suffer without Tyreek Hill for any stretch of the season????"

It wouldn’t surprise me if Goodell realized that doling our punishment for words said in private would create a whole new cottage industry of extortion. That, or he acted human for once (provided all the exculpatory evidence some say exists) and realized it was a set-up from the get-go.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's what I was talking to a buddy about this weekend.

It's always "well, the NFL let him get away with it because x y or z".

How about "damn, they usually oversuspend for shit, they're getting other guys but they didn't get Tyreek in this situation so i'm guessing they had a pretty good reason not to".

Exactly. I mean, that SHOULD be the logical conclusion.

But we have to understand O.City, that the world is full of seriously stupid mother****ers. Instead of following the logical conclusion, they throw up bullshit conspiracy theories about ratings and TD's.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Exactly. I mean, that SHOULD be the logical conclusion.

But we have to understand O.City, that the world is full of seriously stupid mother****ers. Instead of following the logical conclusion, they throw up bullshit conspiracy theories about ratings and TD's.

Yeah kinda crazy.

[Rain Man]

Wow. The guy had 10.5 sacks last year. Unless he's a one-year wonder, that's a hit for the Seahawks.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

but at some point Hill needs to have his lawyers come out with the facts to refute the BS that is being repeated by people who should know better.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It wouldn’t surprise me if Goodell realized that doling our punishment for words said in private would create a whole new cottage industry of extortion. That, or he acted human for once (provided all the exculpatory evidence some say exists) and realized it was a set-up from the get-go.

Agreed. I have said that eventually someone needs to come out and give the full story for TH and the decision they made in order to justify that decision so as to shut down Libel/Defamation Press Corp. BUT maybe they are waiting on the FBI's findings first on the Espinal family because if they bring charges against the Espinal's this will be enough to show why TH got no suspension. Just let the FBI do it. Nuff said.

Or it could be a potential legal thing if they try to explain why they didn't suspend because then they would have to make suspected allegations without naming names and that could get very sticky legally.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Wow. The guy had 10.5 sacks last year. Unless he's a one-year wonder, that's a hit for the Seahawks.

You could say that they're going to be lacking a good punch.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem with public discourse these days is that no one is capable of understanding that situations are complex. Everyone wants to take 2-3 bullet points and assume they know everything that's going on.

I was as surprised as anyone that Tyreek wasn't suspended, but I wasn't in the room for 8.5 hours. I don't know enough about Reed to know if 6 games is too harsh. I just wish people were more comfortable saying, "I don't know, so therefore I'll trust the people who do."

It occurred to me recently that maybe the public has always been incapable of understanding nuance, but now we have to hear about it.

[Chiefshrink]

Luckily for the Seahawks their division is much weaker than it was several years ago with even the Rams taking a step back this year.

[Hoover]

Well I think the main thing that freed Hill was the fact that his woman's family was attempting to extort money from him. Which is Kinda a big deal and a reason why all the BS went down exactly how it did.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's what I was talking to a buddy about this weekend.

It's always "well, the NFL let him get away with it because x y or z".

How about "damn, they usually oversuspend for shit, they're getting other guys but they didn't get Tyreek in this situation so i'm guessing they had a pretty good reason not to".

Its really this simple.

[Bump]

Hill went through the process and was cleared, but these bigots want him punished anyways.