Darrel Williams to IR; DB Alex Brown to 53; Dieter to PS

[Mecca]

This season has certainly made me question the idea of just going with Jags at RB.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This season has certainly made me question the idea of just going with Jags at RB.

Damn straight. I advocated hard on CP for LeVeon Bell.

I got shit on all over for it, and maybe Bell was wrong -- but the theory is right.

This offense goes from really good but stoppable to clearly unstoppable with a Kareem Hunt franchise back that defenses have to respect. Kareem Hunt was the reason Alex Smith was able to beat the Patriots in Foxborough. And a lack of Hunt was the reason the Pats could outlast us in 2018.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Damn straight. I advocated hard on CP for LeVeon Bell.

I got shit on all over for it, and maybe Bell was wrong -- but the theory is right.

This offense goes from really good but stoppable to clearly unstoppable with a Kareem Hunt franchise back that defenses have to respect. Kareem Hunt was the reason Alex Smith was able to beat the Patriots in Foxborough. And a lack of Hunt was the reason the Pats could outlast us in 2018.

Where at? I pounded the table for Bell this offense. His set of skills would be perfect for this offense

Of course any back will struggle running the ball though as long as Reiter and Wylie are your guys on the o-line

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Damn straight. I advocated hard on CP for LeVeon Bell.

I got shit on all over for it, and maybe Bell was wrong -- but the theory is right.

This offense goes from really good but stoppable to clearly unstoppable with a Kareem Hunt franchise back that defenses have to respect. Kareem Hunt was the reason Alex Smith was able to beat the Patriots in Foxborough. And a lack of Hunt was the reason the Pats could outlast us in 2018.

Well, if we didn't trade for this one DE who shall remain nameless, we would have had some cash to pursue Bell. We'd also have a 1st round pick to spend on the offensive line. Or somewhere else. Or trade down. Or trade up.

We'd also have another 2nd round pick this year to spend on OL. Or somewhere else. Or trade down. Or trade up.

But instead we acquired a guy who seems really nice and says good things and works hard in training camp.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This season has certainly made me question the idea of just going with Jags at RB.

Made worse when you're used to having studs...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This season has certainly made me question the idea of just going with Jags at RB.

Ain't no kidding there at all.

Man this RB stable sucks. And the Cardinals got Kenyan Drake for a bucket of dicks.

I was just looking at the Cardinals RB situation and was wondering about David Johnson. I know Drake's a FA next year so they might just decide to roll with DJ again next season, but he's been effectively benched this year.

His salary next year is stout; cap hit would be around $10.5 million. But I'd far prefer him to Le'veon Bell and his hit's a couple million lower than Bell's.

Neither of them are options I prefer as I'm not terribly excited about the idea of a $10 million cap hit on a RB. But g'damn - we CANNOT do this again next season. This backfield is a bag of smashed assholes.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ain't no kidding there at all.

Man this RB stable sucks. And the Cardinals got Kenyan Drake for a bucket of dicks.

I was just looking at the Cardinals RB situation and was wondering about David Johnson. I know Drake's a FA next year so they might just decide to roll with DJ again next season, but he's been effectively benched this year.

His salary next year is stout; cap hit would be around $10.5 million. But I'd far prefer him to Le'veon Bell and his hit's a couple million lower than Bell's.

Neither of them are options I prefer as I'm not terribly excited about the idea of a $10 million cap hit on a RB. But g'damn - we CANNOT do this again next season. This backfield is a bag of smashed assholes.

Thing is, it was pretty similar last year. I don't think this group is much worse than last years once Kareem was gone, but **** it's just been awful.

I think we seriously underestimate just how ****ing terrible the interior OL is. It's just so shitty.

And I'm gonna bet it's Leveon here next year. I dont' care for it, but oh well.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thing is, it was pretty similar last year. I don't think this group is much worse than last years once Kareem was gone, but **** it's just been awful.

I think we seriously underestimate just how ****ing terrible the interior OL is. It's just so shitty.

What's this 'we' nonsense? You just scolded me for blaming climate change on Austin Reiter. I KNOW how ****ing terrible this IOL is. I wanted to draft a C in the first round, FFS.

It's completely unacceptable and needs to be torched. I like Seth Keysor but Id didn't need him telling me that our IOL has been woefully inadequate this season.

But the backs don't deserve a complete pass either. First off, Damien's been dinged up almost all year and I get the impression from Andy's vague comments that he doesn't think Damien's trying quite as hard either. That's a HUGE difference from the dude that took over for Hunt last year and was running his ass off. And of course Hunt was there for 2/3 of the season. And I said I was pretty sure Darrel sucked last year - he looks about the same this year. He's just not that good.

Additionally, I'd say that teams weren't completely sure if it was Hunt or Andy that made the running game work last season so they weren't willing to sell out even after Hunt left. And Damien was just good enough to keep that question in their mind all season.

Now that question is settled - this running game is ****ing atrocious and teams are keying on it. They weren't doing that last season because they just didn't have enough time to be sure.

There are pretty substantial differences, IMO. Cutting Hunt remains one of the dumber things this franchise has done in the last 5 years or so and it could hurt us. A lot.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What's this 'we' nonsense? You just scolded me for blaming climate change on Austin Reiter. I KNOW how ****ing terrible this IOL is. I wanted to draft a C in the first round, FFS.

It's completely unacceptable and needs to be torched. I like Seth Keysor but Id didn't need him telling me that our IOL has been woefully inadequate this season.

But the backs don't deserve a complete pass either. First off, Damien's been dinged up almost all year and I get the impression from Andy's vague comments that he doesn't think Damien's trying quite as hard either. That's a HUGE difference from the dude that took over for Hunt last year and was running his ass off. And of course Hunt was there for 2/3 of the season. And I said I was pretty sure Darrel sucked last year - he looks about the same this year. He's just not that good.

Additionally, I'd say that teams weren't completely sure if it was Hunt or Andy that made the running game work last season so they weren't willing to sell out even after Hunt left. And Damien was just good enough to keep that question in their mind all season.

Now that question is settled - this running game is ****ing atrocious and teams are keying on it. They weren't doing that last season because they just didn't have enough time to be sure.

There are pretty substantial differences, IMO. Cutting Hunt remains one of the dumber things this franchise has done in the last 5 years or so and it could hurt us. A lot.

Yeah, I remember it. I wasn't a Reiter fan in the offseason but was chastised for it, oh well.

I dont' think theres a difference maker at RB for sure. But I think with a better IOL, they'd be atleast passable. I'm just tired of having hammered ass inside.

It seems like every year we have an area that we have to go cheap or neglect a little and try to develop and it blows up. For once it would be nice if everything would just work out a little.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What's this 'we' nonsense? You just scolded me for blaming climate change on Austin Reiter. I KNOW how ****ing terrible this IOL is. I wanted to draft a C in the first round, FFS.

It's completely unacceptable and needs to be torched. I like Seth Keysor but Id didn't need him telling me that our IOL has been woefully inadequate this season.

But the backs don't deserve a complete pass either. First off, Damien's been dinged up almost all year and I get the impression from Andy's vague comments that he doesn't think Damien's trying quite as hard either. That's a HUGE difference from the dude that took over for Hunt last year and was running his ass off. And of course Hunt was there for 2/3 of the season. And I said I was pretty sure Darrel sucked last year - he looks about the same this year. He's just not that good.

Additionally, I'd say that teams weren't completely sure if it was Hunt or Andy that made the running game work last season so they weren't willing to sell out even after Hunt left. And Damien was just good enough to keep that question in their mind all season.

Now that question is settled - this running game is ****ing atrocious and teams are keying on it. They weren't doing that last season because they just didn't have enough time to be sure.

There are pretty substantial differences, IMO. Cutting Hunt remains one of the dumber things this franchise has done in the last 5 years or so and it could hurt us. A lot.

That was an extremely minority opinion when it happened and those of us that held it were killed for it. It's good to see it being embraced more widely now (not necessarily by you, as I don't recall where you stood, but by Chief Fan in general).

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

That was an extremely minority opinion when it happened and those of us that held it were killed for it. It's good to see it being embraced more widely now (not necessarily by you, as I don't recall where you stood, but by Chief Fan in general).

But..but..but...HE "LIED" DAMMIT!!!!

Those of us that held to it still catch grief today. I'm still bent over how it all went down. I thought that I'd be over it once the season started, and I was moving on until Kareem came back. Where is the OUTRAGE NOW???

So now, in order to deal with the fallout, I keep telling myself that I think by the way Clark handled the Tyreek situation, he learned a little something...

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by TEX

But..but..but...HE "LIED" DAMMIT!!!!

Those of us that held to it still catch grief today. I'm still bent over how it all went down. I thought that I'd be over it once the season started, and I was moving on until Kareem came back. Where is the OUTRAGE NOW???

So now, in order to deal with the fallout, I keep telling myself that I think by the way Clark handled the Tyreek situation, he learned a little something...

Hill didn't ****ing do anything bruh.

Hunt was caught in a lie on video shoving and toe tapping a chick over. It was barely a kick, but still, he did the shit. He lies about it, makes the Chiefs look like fools for believing him.

Good riddance.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

That was an extremely minority opinion when it happened and those of us that held it were killed for it. It's good to see it being embraced more widely now (not necessarily by you, as I don't recall where you stood, but by Chief Fan in general).

Last December:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...3&postcount=58

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Even if he wouldn't have played again this year, there's no way this would've been around him next year as well. And everyone will have forgotten about it by then as he came into the season with a fresh start.

It was a rash decision from Clark and an incredibly stupid one long-term. It's going to cost us draft capital, FA$ and/or both at t a time where we can ill afford to burn either of them given the extensions we need to offer and/or picks we need to use to backfill those we can't extend. Hell, we need basic improvements on this roster.

It was shortsighted, petty and foolish.

Clark's temper tantrum has hurt the team substantially.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ain't no kidding there at all.

Man this RB stable sucks. And the Cardinals got Kenyan Drake for a bucket of dicks.

I was just looking at the Cardinals RB situation and was wondering about David Johnson. I know Drake's a FA next year so they might just decide to roll with DJ again next season, but he's been effectively benched this year.

His salary next year is stout; cap hit would be around $10.5 million. But I'd far prefer him to Le'veon Bell and his hit's a couple million lower than Bell's.

Neither of them are options I prefer as I'm not terribly excited about the idea of a $10 million cap hit on a RB. But g'damn - we CANNOT do this again next season. This backfield is a bag of smashed assholes.

Chiefsplanet- WHY ARE ALL THESE RUNNING BACKS SHITTY?
also, Chiefsplanet-WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAHOMES AND THE PASSING GAME?

It's the ****ing offensive line, guys. IT'S THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

All the games Fisher missed and we had ****ing Cam Erving at LT. The revolving door at LG. The huge step down from Morse to Reiter at center. LDT is not horrible, but certainly not a plus. Schwartz is your ONE GOOD LINEMAN THAT HAS BEEN THERE ALL YEAR.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Chiefsplanet- WHY ARE ALL THESE RUNNING BACKS SHITTY?
also, Chiefsplanet-WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAHOMES AND THE PASSING GAME?

It's the ****ing offensive line, guys. IT'S THE OFFENSIVE LINE.

All the games Fisher missed and we had ****ing Cam Erving at LT. The revolving door at LG. The huge step down from Morse to Reiter at center. LDT is not horrible, but certainly not a plus. Schwartz is your ONE GOOD LINEMAN THAT HAS BEEN THERE ALL YEAR.

I'm with you.