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[wheeler08]

The whole name of the game is to drive price up until the other guy runs out of money. And of course I’m going to do it $1 at a time. Because that $1 might be all you have left. I’m not going to over pay if I don’t need too. I’ve lost out on several guys once it got too high (thanks Carlos)

[wheeler08]

He is Dan Snyder (ala Albert Haynesworth). That was gold. From now on he shall be called Daniel instead of Carlos!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by wheeler08

Yea this free agency is whack. In the very least, once a player is bid on, the clock never resets. That reset for 3 days drives me crazy. I have no patience.

Again - built for a 6 month off-season. When the system is in full swing, this process is supposed to be fairly drawn out.

Now whether or not CD will run into retention issues or engagement problems because of that remains to be seen, but it's his show and the logic behind it is relatively sound. He needs to do something to convince people to pay attention during the long periods between sim seasons.

Stretching out the FA process is how he's elected to do it. If it were my show I'd do it differently but I also don't have any knowledge of the processing power that goes into trying to run this stuff, especially if its scaled up for commercial purposes. My ideas may simply not be cost effective or feasible.

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Again - built for a 6 month off-season. When the system is in full swing, this process is supposed to be fairly drawn out.

Now whether or not CD will run into retention issues or engagement problems because of that remains to be seen, but it's his show and the logic behind it is relatively sound. He needs to do something to convince people to pay attention during the long periods between sim seasons.

Stretching out the FA process is how he's elected to do it. If it were my show I'd do it differently but I also don't have any knowledge of the processing power that goes into trying to run this stuff, especially if its scaled up for commercial purposes. My ideas may simply not be cost effective or feasible.

agree with this too, im not mad or upset with cd, im happy he put this out here for me to have fun with

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What I've always found kinda frustrating (since the beginning really) is that I'll go digging through 200 damn players to find 3 that are sliding under the radar, put a bid in on them (when they're sitting there with no bids after 3 days), and then a couple other guys see them, research them and drive them up on me within a couple hours of my bid.

Kinda sucks being someone else's scouting service...

Agree with this as well. Although, in FA, players shop themselves... to other teams.

That being said, I think being able to see 2 years worth of what this player has been doing really is what hurts us in the end. Once we only can only see what he has for 1 year, it will be more of a risk / reward to sign certain players.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ultimately I think the answer is that this is all kinda one-off stuff. Remember, FA going forward trickles out throughout the off-season so strategic bidding will be FAR more critical (and it won't come with the benefit of hindsight).

The sim is being used in a way it just isn't designed for right now. It's the perils of beta testing.

And Carlos can still eat dicks. Dude's blowing me out of the water on backup DTs now. FFS, Dan Snyder - you plan on signing everyone?

Yes! I missed this. And I am the Dan Snyder of L2, and Im assuming it will go just about as good as the Redskins but I wanted to handle the leagues differently.

Sorry for the bidding wars, Im almost done. :P

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Agree with this as well. Although, in FA, players shop themselves... to other teams.

That being said, I think being able to see 2 years worth of what this player has been doing really is what hurts us in the end. Once we only can only see what he has for 1 year, it will be more of a risk / reward to sign certain players.

Remember - in the future you won't be able to see what he's been doing AT ALL.

FA bidding will come before the games are played. You're bidding for the prospective performance of a player. It'll get tough at that point and the wheat will truly be separated from the chaff.

We only got 1 year of that in v1.0 and it was savage. You see some teams fall off a cliff in a hurry. And the kind of deep dives you have to start doing into teams depth charts/FA targets, etc.... can get nasty. You start getting guys you drafted in the 2nd round and gave 6 year deals to cut outright because they're buried on depth charts. You have dudes who you signed as FAs because they started the year before ending up in role-player gigs the following season.

I spent my ass off for that Raiders DT that signed with the Chiefs about 5 years ago figuring he'd be a great interior pass-rusher for me (Vance Walker?). He came to the Chiefs and our 3-4, turned to dog-ass and I cut him after a single season when I'd spent something like 75 on him in FA.

This shit's easy compared to the long-picture view.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Remember - in the future you won't be able to see what he's been doing AT ALL.

FA bidding will come before the games are played. You're bidding for the prospective performance of a player. It'll get tough at that point and the wheat will truly be separated from the chaff.

We only got 1 year of that in v1.0 and it was savage. You see some teams fall off a cliff in a hurry. And the kind of deep dives you have to start doing into teams depth charts/FA targets, etc.... can get nasty. You start getting guys you drafted in the 2nd round and gave 6 year deals to cut outright because they're buried on depth charts. You have dudes who you signed as FAs because they started the year before ending up in role-player gigs the following season.

I spent my ass off for that Raiders DT that signed with the Chiefs about 5 years ago figuring he'd be a great interior pass-rusher for me (Vance Walker?). He came to the Chiefs and our 3-4, turned to dog-ass and I cut him after a single season when I'd spent something like 75 on him in FA.

This shit's easy compared to the long-picture view.

I missed that! Ugh... even worse lol.

Its crazy the dip some players have taking in 2019, after a good - great 2018.

And I agree. The risk will be much higher not having the hindsight. Players also get lost due to injury which puts a damper on some of it.

[lewdog]

We need a separate thread for league 2.

I give no shits about it.

[wheeler08]

Originally Posted by lewdog

We need a separate thread for league 2.

I give no shits about it.

Lol. I thought that awhile back also. I was like get these shits outta our thread. But then I joined league 2! Lol.

[cdcox]

League 1 rosters are ready for Saturday simulations.

[cdcox]

We came up with a different concept for FA bids (minimum bid time, then FA could sign at random times after that), but I haven't had time to code it. Also the pace might have been too fast.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by lewdog

We need a separate thread for league 2.

I give no shits about it.

Maybe instead of all this discussion being on CP it could be done through the forums on the Sandbox site. That way down the road when this has gone commercial we won't expect everyone to come to CP to post about their team.

[Hammock Parties]

going to take a risk

[wheeler08]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

going to take a risk

I might bench all my starters and rest them till playoffs. These last few games are meaningless....