Andy, please let Mahomes be Mahomes

[Chiefspants]

Hey guys, remember this?

Tom Brady was done. Staring down receivers in Arians offense. The Bucs were 7-5, a complete mess, and Brady was declined and overmatched in the needs of his new offense.

All of this is to say that yes, even the best of quarterbacks go through stretches like this. Patrick and Andy are going to figure this out, everything in their history and pedigree suggest they will. For the start we've had to the season, 5-4 seems awfully okay considering the unexpected offensive and defensive problems we've had to start the season.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Hey guys, remember this?

Tom Brady was done. Staring down receivers in Arians offense. The Bucs were 7-5, a complete mess, and Brady was declined and overmatched in the needs of his new offense.

All of this is to say that yes, even the best of quarterbacks go through stretches like this. Patrick and Andy are going to figure this out, everything in their history and pedigree suggest they will. For the start we've had to the season, 5-4 seems awfully okay considering the unexpected offensive and defensive problems we've had to start the season.

Patrick is going to have to learn how to be a QB now. He got away the last 3 seasons playing backyard football. Teams have adjusted defensively. They are not letting guys run deep and forcing Mahomes to make reads and go through his progressions.

If he can't adjust he is done. It's that simple. I think he can do it but he has yet to show it. He keeps trying to make the big play instead of just taking what the defense gives.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If he can't adjust he is done. It's that simple..

Mahomes is done, heard it on CP first.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

He got away the last 3 seasons playing backyard football. Teams have adjusted defensively.

If he can't adjust he is done.

Disagree. People forget the back half of the 2019 season. Patrick absolutely played from the pocket to the point that this board thought Andy made him into Alex. He has absolutely shown he can play this way before.

Also, again --- ALL QB'S GO THROUGH RUTS LIKE THIS.

These were some ugly, ugly interceptions from Tom Brady. pic.twitter.com/KpgbjMDubF

— Zack Cox (@ZackCoxNESN) November 24, 2020

Tom Brady's 9 interceptions in 11 games are more than he had all of last season pic.twitter.com/Al701yUV3u

— NFL on CBS �� (@NFLonCBS) November 24, 2020

To say that "Patrick needs to learn how to play QB now" is such a stupid statement after what we've seen him accomplish in his first NFL seasons. We've seen him play excellently at the position and to forget all of that after literally the first slump in his career makes me think you need to take a breather, bud.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Patrick is going to have to learn how to be a QB now. He got away the last 3 seasons playing backyard football. Teams have adjusted defensively. They are not letting guys run deep and forcing Mahomes to make reads and go through his progressions.

If he can't adjust he is done. It's that simple. I think he can do it but he has yet to show it. He keeps trying to make the big play instead of just taking what the defense gives.

Hasn’t shown he can do it? Didn’t he show it for the first month of the season? They were moving the ball exceptionally well with very few big plays.

The narrative may have been a lot different today if not for two dropped passes on third down and Hill’s slip.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If he can't adjust he is done. It's that simple.

ahhh for **** sakes Pete.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Patrick is going to have to learn how to be a QB now. He got away the last 3 seasons playing backyard football. Teams have adjusted defensively. They are not letting guys run deep and forcing Mahomes to make reads and go through his progressions.

If he can't adjust he is done. It's that simple. I think he can do it but he has yet to show it. He keeps trying to make the big play instead of just taking what the defense gives.

It’s like you’ve never watched him play until two weeks ago.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

It’s like you’ve never watched him play until two weeks ago.

Actually just the opposite. Since the SB last season teams have started taking away the deep ball and daring Patrick to check down and daring Andy to run the ball. Thus far we are barely 1 game over .500 in that ordeal.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Actually just the opposite. Since the SB last season teams have started taking away the deep ball and daring Patrick to check down and daring Andy to run the ball. Thus far we are barely 1 game over .500 in that ordeal.

I like how you conveniently omitted the dumpster fire of a defense we've fielded until two weeks ago.

When every time you take the field you're down 7 more points, it tends to change how decisions get made.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

I like how you conveniently omitted the dumpster fire of a defense we've fielded until two weeks ago.

When every time you take the field you're down 7 more points, it tends to change how decisions get made.

Uh huh...and when the defense stepped up our offense did dick.

Did we take the field down 7 points today? In fact, GB insisted we blow them out today and our offense refused to take them up on the offer.

I believe at one point we had 3 or 4 straight 3 and out series.

I am no fan of Spags and our D but the fact is it is our offense that has shit their leg when the games are on the line this season.

Baltimore: fumble
Chargers: 4 turnovers
Bills: multiple turnovers
Titans: turnovers and complete suckage

Today our offense made the game saving play because our defense held the other team to 7 points.

Get that? Our offense with Patrick Mahomes needed our defense to hold a backup QB to 7 points for us to win.

Keep posting your polls though....

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Actually just the opposite. Since the SB last season teams have started taking away the deep ball and daring Patrick to check down and daring Andy to run the ball. Thus far we are barely 1 game over .500 in that ordeal.

I’m not sure what those pieces of trivia have to do with you having no idea what you were watching with Mahomes the last three seasons.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Hey guys, remember this?

Tom Brady was done. Staring down receivers in Arians offense. The Bucs were 7-5, a complete mess, and Brady was declined and overmatched in the needs of his new offense.

All of this is to say that yes, even the best of quarterbacks go through stretches like this. Patrick and Andy are going to figure this out, everything in their history and pedigree suggest they will. For the start we've had to the season, 5-4 seems awfully okay considering the unexpected offensive and defensive problems we've had to start the season.

I don't know how much truth there was to it, but the narrative at the time was the Bucs hadn't completely bought into the offense at that point of the season, and what they did in the SB was basically the final product of protecting Brady with short dump-offs and what not.

And yeah, the only win they could hang their hat on all season was beating the Packers... swept by the Saints and one game was 38-3 (sound familiar?), lost to the Rams, lost to the Chiefs when it was 21-0 in the first quarter.

There is still plenty of time and the AFC in particular looks like a complete shitshow.... as much as I hated the decades of "just get into the playoffs and anything can happen!!!", this is actually a team that could validate that theory.