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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Mick is not close to his dad in talent. Closer to his uncle Ralph

We spent a half dozen race weekends in Kerpen Germany at Michael and Ralphs home kart track while my son was racing. "Kart Klub Kerpen" on the outskirts of town. Mick is a good driver but never really impressed me too much. He went off to F2 because of his name. Same thing Haas is doing.

If you are ever bored look up Kerpen Germany. Michael built a race themed entertainment center there. Rental Karts, Arcade and a couple of restaurants that are darn near 5 stars. That is where our team would end up in the evening. Good times.

Didn't he win the title in F2? Is that as team dependent as F1 is?

Though he wasn't nearly as dominant there as LeClerc was driving for the same team in 2017, so yeah - there does appear to be a talent gap.

I just didn't figure he was a 'get thoroughly outclassed by Magnussen as soon as you have an average teammate' sort of driver. I figured he'd be in the same sort of class. Give him a seat with a little bit of pace and on a good day he can get you a top 10.

I'm just not seeing that from him at all.