Has your outlook on Chiefs football changed ever since we won the super bowl?

[Titty Meat]

Maybe I'm just getting older but ever since we won the super bowl a few years ago losing hasn't bothered me except for the super bowl loss to the Bucs & the Bengals game for an hour. Before we would lose a regular season game and it would **** my whole day up and I would be on here nearly getting banned.

Did the super bowl victory change anything for you?

[007]

Superbowl was the pinnacle for me. Losses don't bother me anymore.

[smithandrew051]

I’ve also noticed that watching ESPN less and less (except for games) has helped me get over losses much quicker. Before, I used to relive those losses like 3 or 4 times throughout the week.

I find the scripted debate shows completely unwatchable, so I consume less coverage than ever before.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I feel really sorry for you.

But I'm glad you enjoyed the Alex Smith years more when we outperformed our overall potential but accomplished nothing. That must've left you feeling warm and fuzzy inside.

Why do you feel sorry for me, and why do you think I 'enjoyed the Alex Smith years more' [unless, as everyone knows, that's just something you make up because you're angry and have a compulsion to be shitty by lying].

I am perpetually ecstatic we have Mahomes, and have been since we drafted him. There isn't an earlier and more steadfast proponent of him than I.

But the point is, football isn't about drafting the best QB ever, then sitting back in your Barcalounger satisfied that your job is done in perpetuity.

It's about building a team and achieving things, and if the Chiefs head the leg up of having Mahomes and STILL fail to build a team and achieve things, that's not a testament to much in the big scheme of things.

As it stands now, the Seahawks have a pedigree of doing more with Russell ****ing Cornball Wilson IN THE ERA OF THE PATRIOTS DYNASTY than the Chiefs have yet.

It's not that I'm down on the team, or perpetually disappointed. [I know you pounce every single time I observe that a bad play is a bad play, but it also seems you ignore that I applaud every good play as well]. I just maintain high expectations. High expectations are merited with the advantages we currently enjoy. MoF, I really feel sorry for fans who are done being fanatical because the greatest player ever got them one SB and they think that's all they ever really needed or deserved.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

The Colts won one with Peyton. Same with the Packers with Favre and Rodgers, and the Saints with Brees. ****ing Marino didn't even get one. Brady having 7 rings really skews everyone's perspective on how many rings an elite, generational quarterback should win in their career. Obviously I hope we don't look back in 20 years and lament the fact we only got one ring with Mahomes, but if that's the case, it is what it is. However I really don't think that will be the case and I feel like if we can get a second one, it might make getting subsequent ones easier.

That's a great take. Manning could be argued to be one of the best, if not maybe the best true QB ever and he only got one. The Packers have literally had 30 straight years, 30 YEARS!, of All-pro QB play and only got 2.

So much has to align to constantly win in football, even with the greats.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

The Colts won one with Peyton. Same with the Packers with Favre and Rodgers, and the Saints with Brees. ****ing Marino didn't even get one. Brady having 7 rings really skews everyone's perspective on how many rings an elite, generational quarterback should win in their career. Obviously I hope we don't look back in 20 years and lament the fact we only got one ring with Mahomes, but if that's the case, it is what it is. However I really don't think that will be the case and I feel like if we can get a second one, it might make getting subsequent ones easier.

All that being said, I would like to see the Chiefs with Mahomes win more SBs than the Giants with Eli Manning.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by lewdog

That's a great take. Manning could be argued to be one of the best, if not maybe the best true QB ever and he only got one. The Packers have literally had 30 straight years, 30 YEARS!, of All-pro QB play and only got 2.

So much has to align to constantly win in football, even with the greats.

Eli Manning has 2. Wouldn't even out that guy in the top 50 QBs of all time. Football is weird

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Also Brady went 10 years without winning a ring. And he has 7. That's insane.

[Eleazar]

Losing bothers me a lot less. Part of that is being a lot more mature now, sports in general don’t get me worked up like they once did.

Chiefs have nothing to prove. As an elite team we’re always going to be back. We have our trophy, we’re living in the Chiefs’ golden age. Why walk around being negative?

Chiefs fans tend to have a mentality that it’s all a house of cards and it’s probably going to come crashing down any minute. A weird level of insecurity for a team that already reached the summit.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, the rest is just gravy after that.

I also accepted a while ago that a Patriots-like dynasty is just not realistic in football for this franchise in the same way it was for them (given the ease of the Patriots' division consistently and how many games were effectively fixed for Tom Brady by the refs for decades). Anyone trying to measure themselves to that is going to fail.

Exactly this.

Some of it is getting older, but the Indy loss where Luck bounced the ball to himself and everyone got concussions REALLY ****ed with my ass. HARD. I didn't even watch the end. I went and cleaned the garage. Wife had to come check on me. And that's not THAT long ago. At least for me and my old ass.

Mahomes provided a ****ton of catharsis for me, and I'm guessing a huge swath of the fanbase.

It's a stupid ****ing game that I have 0 capacity to impact the outcome of, but goddamn it, Mahomes legitimately made my life better.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

The Colts won one with Peyton. Same with the Packers with Favre and Rodgers, and the Saints with Brees. ****ing Marino didn't even get one. Brady having 7 rings really skews everyone's perspective on how many rings an elite, generational quarterback should win in their career. Obviously I hope we don't look back in 20 years and lament the fact we only got one ring with Mahomes, but if that's the case, it is what it is. However I really don't think that will be the case and I feel like if we can get a second one, it might make getting subsequent ones easier.

I think Rodgers is a playoff choker and Peyton was a notorious underachiever until he got to Denver, people were calling him the Schottenheimer of QBs. Brees was a master technician, but never really had great all-around talent around him, so he's more of a Marino than a choker, . . . and NONE of them have the game-changing ability of Mahomes.

Put it this way, do YOU think that the Packers, Colts, Saints or Dolphins achieved everything they were capable of when they had generational QBs?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Eli Manning has 2. Wouldn't even out that guy in the top 50 QBs of all time. Football is weird

Man that is just crazy isn't it. ****ing Eli has more than Peyton.

I will say that if Mahomes can get a second, he will cement himself as one of the greatest of all-time because of they way he does it.

Plus that would be sweet because I could then use that to talk so much shit on Packers and Manning fans as they only got 1 with those QBs.

I still have a lot of hate for Peyton Manning and still think he's overrated.

[Bearcat]

Yes... and long before Mahomes, all I wanted was a team that made it to the most important late-January games on a fairly consistent basis (or ever).

I walked out of Arrowhead from the 2018 AFCCG as happy as I could after a loss, knowing they hit the mark, then the SB win the following year really cemented it in my mind.... that this team would be right there in mid-late January every year Mahomes is healthy.

And sports is a fickle bitch... for every Brady, there are several Aaron Rodgers or guys who didn't even get one.

I certainly don't want the team to waste his talent, considering how much has to go wrong for them not to play in or win a SB every year or two.... but similar to the other sports I follow, it's not like I have a number of championships beyond that first one to "demand" as a fan.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Why do you feel sorry for me, and why do you think I 'enjoyed the Alex Smith years more' [unless, as everyone knows, that's just something you make up because you're angry and have a compulsion to be shitty by lying].

I am perpetually ecstatic we have Mahomes, and have been since we drafted him. There isn't an earlier and more steadfast proponent of him than I.

But the point is, football isn't about drafting the best QB ever, then sitting back in your Barcalounger satisfied that your job is done in perpetuity.

It's about building a team and achieving things, and if the Chiefs head the leg up of having Mahomes and STILL fail to build a team and achieve things, that's not a testament to much in the big scheme of things.

As it stands now, the Seahawks have a pedigree of doing more with Russell ****ing Cornball Wilson IN THE ERA OF THE PATRIOTS DYNASTY than the Chiefs have yet.

It's not that I'm down on the team, or perpetually disappointed. [I know you pounce every single time I observe that a bad play is a bad play, but it also seems you ignore that I applaud every good play as well]. I just maintain high expectations. High expectations are merited with the advantages we currently enjoy. MoF, I really feel sorry for fans who are done being fanatical because the greatest player ever got them one SB and they think that's all they ever really needed or deserved.

I feel sorry for you because it seems that the only way you derive enjoyment from this sport is whether your team - after all the trials and tribulations and games of chance that define a season - wins a Super Bowl or not. As if there’s no other metric of success that’s relevant in defining your level of satisfaction from watching Mahomes play.

I think that’s really depressing. And I feel bad for you.

More likely than not you’re going to overrate the advantage that we have over others (‘homer bias’) and experience a much less satisfying experience.

And I think most people here know that you do not seem to acknowledge good and bad equally. I am hardly the person who has called that out most. But it’s helpful to know your mindset and where it’s all coming from.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by Coach

Agreed. That being said, I'm just glad to see a once in a generation type of a QB on the team and winning a Super Bowl, after suffering so many bullshits in the 1990's to 2018.

Absolutely. You won't ever hear any complaints from me.

If in 2011 a psychic told me that from 2017-2022 we would draft a generational talent at QB, he'd win MVP his first year starting, we'd extend him for essentially his whole career, and we'd host 4 AFC title games, go to 2 Super Bowls, and win 1....

I would've told them to lay off the crack pipe...

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Is this where we sit in a circle and talk eachother off the ledge?