Chiefs So...um...Mahomes lost us this game - Page 15

DJ's left nut · 10-16-2022, 06:12 PM

Right?

{ducks}

Mecca · 10-17-2022, 10:15 AM

Josh Allen is literally a white Cam Newton, his elite window will be smaller because of the way he plays and is used.

louie aguiar · 10-17-2022, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Josh Allen is literally a white Cam Newton, his elite window will be smaller because of the way he plays and is used.

This is ridiculous. He’s a lot better than Cam Newton ever was.

DRM08 · 10-17-2022, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudasRising20

Oh please. Allen had a clean pocket all day and a good run game for support. Plus he has more weapons at receiver. Of course he would look better to an untrained eye.

Here's the real test. If the two QB's switched places yesterday, which team wins and by how much?

In the Buffalo & KC games, I think Mahomes has had the tougher job going against Buffalo's defense instead of KC's defense. We keep hearing about how Buffalo has the best defense in the league, so I think they should get some credit for making it tough on him. But he needs to be a lot more careful with the ball. He has also been pretty bad at the end of games recently, which isn't a good trend.

Bengals game: terrible 2nd half
Chargers game: not good, bailed out by 99 yard Pick 6 on Herbert
Colts game: not good, INT at very end
Tampa game: good for 3 quarters, bad INT late in game
Raiders game: blew it on 3rd and 3, bailed out by Raiders final drive
Buffalo game: Obviously 2 bad INT's in critical situations

Mecca · 10-17-2022, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

This is ridiculous. He’s a lot better than Cam Newton ever was.

Cam won a ****ing MVP it's like people forget this, he was outstanding once...then him being a runner etc caught up to him..

Allen is literally on the same career track, using your QB as a component of your run game especially shit like QB power is how you end up with a QB that doesn't last long.

JPH83 · 10-17-2022, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudasRising20

Oh please. Allen had a clean pocket all day and a good run game for support. Plus he has more weapons at receiver. Of course he would look better to an untrained eye.

Here's the real test. If the two QB's switched places yesterday, which team wins and by how much?

That Buffalo OL isn't that good, largely Allen has worked around it because he's ridiculously mobile. That said his LT IS playing much better than ours, he has better WRs and he isn't being chased by Von Miller.

Allen's probably playing slightly better right now, but if I picture him protected by Brown and Wylie and throwing to MVS and JJSS, I don't see him out-performing Mahomes.

kcbubb · 10-17-2022, 10:29 AM

Agreed. Allen has a better supporting cast offensively and a better defense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudasRising20

Oh please. Allen had a clean pocket all day and a good run game for support. Plus he has more weapons at receiver. Of course he would look better to an untrained eye.

Here's the real test. If the two QB's switched places yesterday, which team wins and by how much?

DRM08 · 10-17-2022, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Cam won a ****ing MVP it's like people forget this, he was outstanding once...then him being a runner etc caught up to him..

Allen is literally on the same career track, using your QB as a component of your run game especially shit like QB power is how you end up with a QB that doesn't last long.

Some of it falls on Allen too. In the first quarter on 2nd and 10, he had a sideline run where he could step out of bounds 2 yards short of the first down. He chose to stay in bounds and collide with the defender, who nailed the hell out of Allen's back. It didn't seem like a critical play to put his body on the line. They were guaranteed a 3rd and 2 situation, which is very good for any offense. Why allow the defender to smack you like that?

Mecca · 10-17-2022, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08

Some of it falls on Allen too. In the first quarter on 2nd and 10, he had a sideline run where he could step out of bounds 2 yards short of the first down. He chose to stay in bounds and collide with the defender, who nailed the hell out of Allen's back. It didn't seem like a critical play to put his body on the line. They were guaranteed a 3rd and 2 situation, which is very good for any offense. Why allow the defender to smack you like that?

Because he's big he thinks he can win those collisions, it's like no one has told him all you're doing is shortening your career.

DRM08 · 10-17-2022, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Because he's big he thinks he can win those collisions, it's like no one has told him all you're doing is shortening your career.

I'm sure the coaches have told him. He has improved a million miles with a lot of elements of his game, so this is an area that they'll keep working with him to be a little more careful. It's OK to take those body shots on 4th down or late in the game on 3rd down, but early in the game on 2nd down? Yeah...protect your body.

RunKC · 10-17-2022, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Because he's big he thinks he can win those collisions, it's like no one has told him all you're doing is shortening your career.

All it takes is one bad play. Herbert is the same size as Allen and he fell on Danna’s helmet and now he’s got fractured rib cartilage for the rest of the season

KChiefs1 · 10-17-2022, 10:47 AM

Rex Ryan is insufferable. He was orgasmic over the Chiefs loss.

Why so much vitriol for the Chiefs?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Mecca · 10-17-2022, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Rex Ryan is insufferable. He was orgasmic over the Chiefs loss.

Why so much vitriol for the Chiefs?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

EVERYONE is tired of the Chiefs, unless you are a Chiefs fan. Most everyone especially fans of an AFC team feel like they went from the Patriots to the Chiefs are are really tired of the same teams.

I've heard numerous people talk about how they can't stand Romo calling Chiefs games because he literally wants to suck Mahomes dick all game.

Gary Cooper · 10-17-2022, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

EVERYONE is tired of the Chiefs, unless you are a Chiefs fan. Most everyone especially fans of an AFC team feel like they went from the Patriots to the Chiefs are are really tired of the same teams.

I've heard numerous people talk about how they can't stand Romo calling Chiefs games because he literally wants to suck Mahomes dick all game.

That would be our entire forum.

**dirk digler** · 10-17-2022, 10:56 AM

Here is the game ending INT. Maybe I am wrong here but JJSS was in the same area has Skyy was so his defender didn't drop off.

Bills playing Cover 2 to the bottom with man lock up top on that Mahomes INT. Nice play by Taron Johnson to find work and clinch the win for the Bills pic.twitter.com/5o9Drzr7J4
— Shawn (@syedschemes) October 17, 2022

Chiefnj2 · 10-17-2022, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Here is the game ending INT. Maybe I am wrong here but JJSS was in the same area has Skyy was so his defender didn't drop off.

Bills playing Cover 2 to the bottom with man lock up top on that Mahomes INT. Nice play by Taron Johnson to find work and clinch the win for the Bills pic.twitter.com/5o9Drzr7J4
— Shawn (@syedschemes) October 17, 2022

Mahomes needed to drop that ball in the turkey hole.

10-16-2022, 06:12 PM
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-730901	So...um...Mahomes lost us this game Right? {ducks}
Posts: 66,803

10-17-2022, 10:15 AM	#211
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-592950	Josh Allen is literally a white Cam Newton, his elite window will be smaller because of the way he plays and is used.
Posts: 115,300

10-17-2022, 10:47 AM	#221
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Rex Ryan is insufferable. He was orgasmic over the Chiefs loss. Why so much vitriol for the Chiefs? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________
Posts: 54,038

10-17-2022, 10:56 AM	#224
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $214644	Here is the game ending INT. Maybe I am wrong here but JJSS was in the same area has Skyy was so his defender didn't drop off. Bills playing Cover 2 to the bottom with man lock up top on that Mahomes INT. Nice play by Taron Johnson to find work and clinch the win for the Bills pic.twitter.com/5o9Drzr7J4 — Shawn (@syedschemes) October 17, 2022
Posts: 67,107