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Old 10-26-2022, 08:47 AM  
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With their now being that extra WC spot and everyone being bunched up, there's gonna be alot of executives deluding themselves into thinking they have a shot.

Even with that said, I've never understood why more teams don't sell. Take the Raiders for instance and Josh Jacobs. He's clearly going elsewhere this offseason, so they probably think they could get a 3rd round comp pick. If the Saints beat them this weekend, why wouldn't you try to move him?

The Saints should trade anything that's not bolted down at this point, but I digress.

I know teams don't like to shit on their fanbase and sell because of tickets and blah blah blah.

Why dont' more teams sell though?
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Old 10-26-2022, 11:42 AM   #91
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Since we're all just sitting around here suckin' on our big ol' chili dogs, let me posit a question to you.

If a team called and wanted to acquire Noah Gray or Darius Harris, what would you charge to be willing to get the deal done?

I mention both guys because they are assets teams would ostensibly want (for instance: nobody wants Frank Clark), and we have enough resources at both positions to get by without them.

What draft pick would you accept for either player?
They're worth more to us than they are to anyone else.

If you're looking to acquire someone like that you might be willing to give up a 5th rounder.

And in both cases, I'd rather have the player than the pick.
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Old 10-26-2022, 11:44 AM   #93
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Gray I'd probably trade for a 3rd. I'd listen for a 4th, but I'm not sure I make that deal. Veach has been pretty killer with 4ths though.

Harris I may not trade, as he is our always-needed Gay insurance. But if you threw a 3rd my way, I'd probably jump on that. I may jump on it for a 4th as well, honestly.
Yeah - ain't anybody giving up a 3rd for a guy with 16 career catches for 115 yards or a LB who was cut and could've signed anywhere else in the off-season but came back on a minimum contract.

They're valuable depth here. Would I give up either of them for a 3rd? Well yeah, but we might as well be talking about getting a 2 for Lucas Niang at this point. It's just not a realistic conversation to have.
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A long term extension eh?
I think I'll pass. I'm having Frank Clark flashbacks.
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I don't want Chubb.

The price tag is going to be way too high for a guy that can't stay healthy.
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I like Chubb alot, but the injury history probably scares me off that.

I would be interested in giving up a 3rd for a rental as it would basically be moving down the draft slot as we've got a comp 3 at the end IIRC anyway.

But still, sadly, I don't think I'd be interested in what it woudl take to get him.
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Yeah - ain't anybody giving up a 3rd for a guy with 16 career catches for 115 yards or a LB who was cut and could've signed anywhere else in the off-season but came back on a minimum contract.

They're valuable depth here. Would I give up either of them for a 3rd? Well yeah, but we might as well be talking about getting a 2 for Lucas Niang at this point. It's just not a realistic conversation to have.
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Denver dealing Chubb would be massively funny. They give away all their picks for sorry as Russ and then suck and have to turn around and kill the team and don't Jeudy is off the trade table as well. He isn't.
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Yeah - ain't anybody giving up a 3rd for a guy with 16 career catches for 115 yards or a LB who was cut and could've signed anywhere else in the off-season but came back on a minimum contract.

They're valuable depth here. Would I give up either of them for a 3rd? Well yeah, but we might as well be talking about getting a 2 for Lucas Niang at this point. It's just not a realistic conversation to have.
It's not inconceivable that an NFL team sees him and sees the ceiling of an above-average starting TE in the NFL. It's not his fault he has a Hall of Famer gobbling up snaps in front of him.

And I think that criticism of Harris is unfair -- he has shown he's a starting caliber off ball linebacker this season, after he came back.

I will agree they are both worth more to us than the pick, but that's why I wouldn't move on either of them unless the compensation was strong/overwhelming.
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It's not inconceivable that an NFL team sees him and sees the ceiling of an above-average starting TE in the NFL. It's not his fault he has a Hall of Famer gobbling up snaps in front of him.

And I think that criticism of Harris is unfair -- he has shown he's a starting caliber off ball linebacker this season, after he came back.

I will agree they are both worth more to us than the pick, but that's why I wouldn't move on either of them unless the compensation was strong/overwhelming.
I think that's an easier argument to make for, say, Albert O.

And Albert O ain't getting more than a 5th.
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This is probably true, but even still is crazy. Owners who are usually very intelligent wealthy people, just look short sighted when doing it this way.

Look at the Broncos. There's no reason they shouldn't atleast trade Chubb. He's not re signing there and they need picks to recoup the Wilson trade.
I have to admit, it feels pretty damn good reading this post. The Broncos might just have the dumbest front office in the entire NFL. They might have to trade away a diamond to hold on to a lit paper bag full of shit who's sitting on their front porch the next four seasons... LOL
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It's not inconceivable that an NFL team sees him and sees the ceiling of an above-average starting TE in the NFL. It's not his fault he has a Hall of Famer gobbling up snaps in front of him.

And I think that criticism of Harris is unfair -- he has shown he's a starting caliber off ball linebacker this season, after he came back.

I will agree they are both worth more to us than the pick, but that's why I wouldn't move on either of them unless the compensation was strong/overwhelming.
I think it's a real reach to say any other team would see Grey as an above average starter. He's our guy and I don't think any of us see that.
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The one other thing - Cooks is under contract through next season. The WR room gets a lot less crowded next year with only MVS and Moore having contracts. The issue is that Cooks' contract is pretty massive.
Don't forget about Justyn Ross....
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