Lucas Niang Injury Update Please!

[notorious]

What is the word on Niang? We can't have current substiturd fill in for him very long. He's terrible.

On Williams run, Lucas Niang knocked his defender to the ground. Trey Smith's defender pushed him into the ground and most of Smith's weight fell on Niang's left arm. #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/M0NxbeRjYO

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 7, 2021

https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/...rs-with-injury

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Hoover

First, it's great that Niang is coming back. While I guess many here have seen enough, I think there is still time for him to turn into something. He's 24 years only and has two years remaining under his rookie contract after this season.

Now I don't think he's going to see much action unless there is an injury, which is fine. I just want him to stay healthy, practice, and make a run for the job in the offseason. We need him for depth badly.

Only has two years left? Isnt that the benefit?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Didn't they play Prince there over Christian earlier in the year for a few snaps?

I don't recall the if's and buts of "when and where" but both have played pretty much identical snaps.

I know this, I've watched Christian actually play full games there and he's pretty decent.

I also know this, I have not watched Prince play a full game anywhere.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by irafreak

Is this really what happened? Did he get paid? I can't imagine a player being ok with being asked to take a year off, unpaid and be forced to stay on the rookie deal a year longer...

He was not going to play year one anyways as he was recovering from an injury.

Sitting for covid benefited both Niang and Chiefs.

[jettio]

Looks like the chiefs planet members that know not shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League are down on Lucas Niang.

Expect success for this young man playing tackle football in the National Football League.

It is like the dumbasses forgot that he had to switch to LT against Trey Hendrickson on an artificial turf field because Brown was worried about his calf in pregame warmups.

You have to not know shit about orthopedics and kinesiology to blame a player for a connective tissue injury.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't recall the if's and buts of "when and where" but both have played pretty much identical snaps.

I know this, I've watched Christian actually play full games there and he's pretty decent.

I also know this, I have not watched Prince play a full game anywhere.

Well I hope you're right - I like Christian and wouldn't mind trying to flip a decent 2-3 year deal his way to lock him up as a backup for awhile.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by mabbott

PFF Niang vs Wylie

Before an injury cut his season short, Niang recorded a 79.5 overall grade, an 84.8 PFF pass-blocking grade and a 71.8 PFF run-blocking grade across 378 offensive snaps. In his three seasons with significant playing time, Niang never pushed his run-blocking grade above 75.7 (2018) or his pass-blocking grade above 86.3 (2018). Still, he never allowed more than 14 total pressures in any single season of his career and was called for just three total penalties across 1,982 career offensive snaps.

Wylie was graded at 67.2 for 2021 and is at 59.7.... so there is that

Um...according to what?

Because PFF shows:

64.6 overall, 59.1 pass blocking and 70.0 run blocking for Niang in 2021. Over 524 offensive snaps.

Something don't wash there.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well I hope you're right - I like Christian and wouldn't mind trying to flip a decent 2-3 year deal his way to lock him up as a backup for awhile.

I agree on the 2-3 year deal. He's a guy I'd buy as insurance going forward with the plan to try get a LT in the draft. I don't think we'd see any noticeable drop in play from OBJr sans maybe the run game that we barely use anyhow.

I really wanted the Chiefs to make a play for Darrisaw in that 2021 draft leading up to the trade for OBJr. Man, its a tough swallow when you look at the chart posted haha.

And just how lucky have the Vikings been picking in the early 20's lately?

2020 - Justin Jefferson at 22
2021 - Christian Darrisaw at 23
Even Bradbury, who they took at 18 in 2019, is really rounding into a good player.

I thought Cine was a great pick for them at 32 this year in their trade down but who knows what will be the result of the multiple surgeries on his shattered ankle in the long run.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I agree on the 2-3 year deal. He's a guy I'd buy as insurance going forward with the plan to try get a LT in the draft. I don't think we'd see any noticeable drop in play from OBJr sans maybe the run game that we barely use anyhow.

I really wanted the Chiefs to make a play for Darrisaw in that 2021 draft leading up to the trade for OBJr. Man, its a tough swallow when you look at the chart posted haha.

And just how lucky have the Vikings been picking in the early 20's lately?

2020 - Justin Jefferson at 22
2021 - Christian Darrisaw at 23
Even Bradbury, who they took at 18 in 2019, is really rounding into a good player.

I thought Cine was a great pick for them at 32 this year in their trade down but who knows what will be the result of the multiple surgeries on his shattered ankle in the long run.

Darrisaw dropped because of injury concerns. He probably would have went higher without those.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I agree on the 2-3 year deal. He's a guy I'd buy as insurance going forward with the plan to try get a LT in the draft. I don't think we'd see any noticeable drop in play from OBJr sans maybe the run game that we barely use anyhow.

I really wanted the Chiefs to make a play for Darrisaw in that 2021 draft leading up to the trade for OBJr. Man, its a tough swallow when you look at the chart posted haha.

And just how lucky have the Vikings been picking in the early 20's lately?

2020 - Justin Jefferson at 22
2021 - Christian Darrisaw at 23
Even Bradbury, who they took at 18 in 2019, is really rounding into a good player.

I thought Cine was a great pick for them at 32 this year in their trade down but who knows what will be the result of the multiple surgeries on his shattered ankle in the long run.

It appears all of those defenders from Georgia this past year need a lot of coaching..none of them look ready to go out of the box.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well I hope you're right - I like Christian and wouldn't mind trying to flip a decent 2-3 year deal his way to lock him up as a backup for awhile.

I can't comprehend why Christian isn't getting a shot at RT. He's proven to be better than Wylie on both sides even playing for garbage teams. Every now and then when you see him on the sideline, you can almost see that he looks a little frustrated. He knows he's a better player than Wylie and it's got to drive him nuts that he's not starting.

Again, one of Andy's few flaws is this obsession with familiarity. Wylie has been here forever so he gets the nod, it's so frustrating. I honestly feel like Christian could be at least a short term answer on the right side if they would just give him a chance.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It appears all of those defenders from Georgia this past year need a lot of coaching..none of them look ready to go out of the box.

I have never been a fan of drafting players from Georgia very often. For years now it seems they are put in a position to do something well based on their raw talent and not really taught to be well-rounded. Sure, there are a few exceptions, but not many it seems. Roquan Smith is the last player I remember being a "WOW" guy. Others have succeeded and developed more in the NFL but didn't seem to come out ready to go.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

I can't comprehend why Christian isn't getting a shot at RT. He's proven to be better than Wylie on both sides even playing for garbage teams. Every now and then when you see him on the sideline, you can almost see that he looks a little frustrated. He knows he's a better player than Wylie and it's got to drive him nuts that he's not starting.

Again, one of Andy's few flaws is this obsession with familiarity. Wylie has been here forever so he gets the nod, it's so frustrating. I honestly feel like Christian could be at least a short term answer on the right side if they would just give him a chance.

Wanogho actually has legit skills so it's kinda weird he's not getting a shot either.

[htismaqe]

They watch these guys practice every day. There's a lot more to this than just blind loyalty.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Wanogho actually has legit skills so it's kinda weird he's not getting a shot either.

Yep, either of them at this point. You have to eventually give one of them a shot. I don't know what more it's going to take.

If both of them actually somehow look worse than Wylie in practice and that's their reasoning, then neither of them should even be on an NFL roster and we should be scrounging for upgrades somewhere, but I highly doubt that's the case.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They watch these guys practice every day. There's a lot more to this than just blind loyalty.

I think there is a certain aspect to that in the offseason, but I'm not so sure when it comes to in-season changes.

For instance, he did start a rookie in Smith over LDT coming back last season and it's not like LDT was a slouch.

But... in season? We don't have a lot to work off of there. You look at how long they stuck with terrible players, especially on defense, and you scratch your head and wonder if its the same offensively.