*****OFFICIAL 2022 Border War Hoops and HATE Thread

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

But where do you draw the line?

Okay, CFB decides to expand to 12, but then there’s a group of teams muddled together after the Top 5 or so, how do you decide which teams get to go and which ones get left out in the cold? Generally, in college football, the Top 4 or 5 teams are gonna be the ‘best’ teams and the teams that deserve to have the opportunity to play for a championship. A team that is 9-3 and finished 3rd in its conference and finished ranked #12 on the season had a great year. But do they deserve to play for a Natty? IMO, hell no. But that’s what will be happening in the new ‘expanded’ playoff. And just wait till we start hearing all the crying from the #13 team and the #14 team and the (you get the idea). WE should have been in instead of the #11 team or the #12 team! It will get unbearable listening to all the bitching and complaining from fanbases, coaches, players, boosters, administrators, etc. So then we’ll eventually cave into the bitching and expand again! Yea. Now you’ve got an extremely watered down field of teams, most of which have NO business having the opportunity to play for a National Title getting the Oprah treatment. Eventually no one will care about the CFP if it heads that direction.

You can’t treat college football like college basketball. They’re different sports with different physical requirements that require different turnaround times for games, more significant injury risks. How many extra weeks you gonna take away from these kids forcing them to play all these additional games if they happen to be ‘lucky’ enough to be one of the chosen. Does anyone give a shit about potential injury risks to these kids, several of which will be playing on Sunday’s soon enough. I guarantee their parents do. And probably their agents. And hell, the kids themselves. ‘Gotta look out for me’. Can you blame them? So you’ll see ‘Star’ players pulling out of CFP games on a regular basis because who wants to risk a future career of millions and lifetime security for your family to satisfy an organization that wants to subject them to additional injury risk by playing a drawn out CFP that instead of only 2 games is now 4 games (and eventually more than that if they continue to expand, which they will). How do I know that? Because it’s all about money and at the end of the day the NCAA will make as much profit off these teams and players as they can because they don’t give a damn about what happens to them when they’re finished with college and ready to head off to their future NFL career. (or whatever they choose to do in life after football)

They’ll squeeze them for every last dime they can, damn the future consequences of those actions though.

Mark my words. Expanding the CFP will ultimately ruin college football and the players will end up being the collateral damage from it.

But the NCAA won’t give one flying ****.

And THAT’s why you keep it at 4. It’s fine the way it is.

I think 12 would be a pretty good number, but I'm not pounding the table for any changes. Just saying it's silly to pretend like there are only 4 teams that have a legit chance to win it all.


A team that is 9-3 and finished 3rd in its conference and finished ranked #12 on the season had a great year. But do they deserve to play for a Natty?

Well, you have to look at a lot more than just their record. What if they have the best QB in the country, and only lost those games because he was injured half the year? Should they have a chance? What if they had a lot of new pieces or new coaches, and it took them awhile to hit their stride but they dominated down the stretch? What if they played a far harder schedule than some of the teams above them with 1 or 2 losses?

Can you imagine if a basketball season had only 12 games, some of which were against scrubs out of conference, and from that they selected 4 teams out of 363 to compete for a nat'l title? LOL. Do you think they'd "get it right" consistently? I don't think anybody has any clue of who the top 4 teams are in CBB right now. You might as well just draw names from a hat.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I think 12 would be a pretty good number, but I'm not pounding the table for any changes. Just saying it's silly to pretend like there are only 4 teams that have a legit chance to win it all.

Can you imagine if a basketball season had only 12 games, some of which were against scrubs out of conference, and from that they selected 4 teams out of 363 to compete for a nat'l title? LOL. Do you think they'd "get it right" consistently? I don't think anybody has any clue of who the top 4 teams are in CBB right now. You might as well just draw names from a hat.

And, again, you can’t compare college basketball to college football. They’re two entirely different sports with different variables, inherent injury risks, physical demands, recovery time, etc. 12 basketball games is not in any way equivalent to 12 football games so not even sure why you would make that analogy.

A chance? Well sure. Every team could have a ‘chance’. But we’re talking Dumb and Dumber odds here. So what you wanna do. Put every team in FBS (120 approx.) in one giant college football playoff that goes on for 6 months to determine a champion? That way everyone got a chance. That’s reeruned thinking.

Hell, while we’re at it, let’s just expand the NCAA Tourney to 363 teams, give them all a ‘chance’ and that way every one can feel good about their participation trophy and the fact they got a shot to play for a Natty. Nevermind the fact that 85 to 90 percent of them didn’t even deserve that chance in the first place. I mean, it’s dumb enough now that college basketball basically allows about 20% of their teams into the post season tourney with a ‘chance’ to play for a Natty.

I mean, I get WHY they do it ($$$$$$), but it’s still stupid.

[Pants]

TBT is so damn cringe. Ughhhh.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

And, again, you can’t compare college basketball to college football. They’re two entirely different sports with different variables, inherent injury risks, physical demands, recovery time, etc. 12 basketball games is not in any way equivalent to 12 football games so not even sure why you would make that analogy.

A chance? Well sure. Every team could have a ‘chance’. But we’re talking Dumb and Dumber odds here. So what you wanna do. Put every team in FBS (120 approx.) in one giant college football playoff that goes on for 6 months to determine a champion? That way everyone got a chance. That’s reeruned thinking.

Hell, while we’re at it, let’s just expand the NCAA Tourney to 363 teams, give them all a ‘chance’ and that way every one can feel good about their participation trophy and the fact they got a shot to play for a Natty. Nevermind the fact that 85 to 90 percent of them didn’t even deserve that chance in the first place. I mean, it’s dumb enough now that college basketball basically allows about 20% of their teams into the post season tourney with a ‘chance’ to play for a Natty.

I mean, I get WHY they do it ($$$$$$), but it’s still stupid.

Wait, you’re saying that any team outside of the four in the playoff would have extremely low odds? Are you serious? Did you forget that Alabama didn’t make it? All because they lost to a good team on the road by 1 point in OT.

TCU finished with a great record but they don’t scare me any more than a handful of other Big 12 teams right now. They had the benefit of playing a weak non-con and barely escaped in several games. And they just lost to K-State. Who’s to say that K-State wouldn’t have a better chance of advancing in the playoff?

Every year there’s controversy regarding teams that didn’t make the cut. It’s ridiculous to act like all the other teams face astronomical odds.