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Old 02-20-2023, 07:42 PM   #1
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Concur.

Sounds like Dorsey (their OC) is in over his head. Which is bad, because they're fully committed to "win now" at this point. Sounds like they should've been leading the pack for a new OC, upgrading their OL a bit, and of course finding some supporting weapons.

Regardless though, they have some serious issues with the cap and their starting defense. Plus, they don't have much depth on that side of the ball either, it sounds like.

I think they probably still win their division next season, but they won't be good enough to beat either CIN or KC. Might not be able to beat JAX in 2023 either.
Is there something about QB coaches-turned-OCs that makes them forget about the OL? I know that's why they have an OL coach, but as the coordinator they clearly have to be involved with works best for the players they have.

It just seems like there's been a run of these former QBs and/or exclusive QB coaches who are now OCs (or OCs who became HCs). Reich, Nagy, Pederson, O'Connell, Taylor, Dorsey, Kafka...

And there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, but it does mean you can't just sit in your office messing around with the playbook all day. At some point you have to get your hands dirty with the OL, and I feel like so many of these guys just seem to be really hands off when it comes to that stuff.
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Old 02-20-2023, 07:56 PM   #2
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Is there something about QB coaches-turned-OCs that makes them forget about the OL? I know that's why they have an OL coach, but as the coordinator they clearly have to be involved with works best for the players they have.

It just seems like there's been a run of these former QBs and/or exclusive QB coaches who are now OCs (or OCs who became HCs). Reich, Nagy, Pederson, O'Connell, Taylor, Dorsey, Kafka...

And there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, but it does mean you can't just sit in your office messing around with the playbook all day. At some point you have to get your hands dirty with the OL, and I feel like so many of these guys just seem to be really hands off when it comes to that stuff.
Originally I was going to say that OCs would have to be on top of their OLs, but the more I think about it, you may be onto something. I mean, we've seen some terrible decisions made by OLs in 2022, and eve more daming, some just horrific 'adjustments' made by QBs with their protections. Or, conversely, not making any adjustments.

Hurts was guilty of that at least a handful of times in the SB. He literally didn't make any adjustments to his protection pre-snap on the play where he fumbled. And that was a really different look Spags gave him on that play, but he just ignored it. I mean, I get that Jason Kelce was basically in charge of making those reads/adjustments, but i feel like Hurts could've saved himself some wasted plays if he'd spent a second making sure his protection was going to at least block a LB here and there.

Anyway, maybe a lot of these OCs just don't think about some of that. Or maybe Spags took advantage of a young OC in more ways than we knew?
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