Is Anyone Here a Lawyer or Member of Law Enforcement?

[AdolfOliverBush]

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

Trust me, I've had some very unpleasant thoughts about what I'd like to see be done with this woman.

I haven't even had the chance to properly grieve for my father as a result of this horseshit. And if I wasn't a cynical bastard before all of this, this situation has really changed me in a way that I really don't like.

Is there any chance that he actually did give her the RV? It's not uncommon for an old guy to allow himself to be taken advantage of by a rotten bitch, to avoid being alone.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Is there any chance that he actually did give her the RV? It's not uncommon for an old guy to allow himself to be taken advantage of by a rotten bitch, to avoid being alone.

Even if he did give her the RV, it's not legal unless it's done the right way. She said there's no contract or other documents giving the partner the RV, which would typically means it's not partner's until she can prove it is.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Even if he did give her the RV, it's not legal unless it's done the right way. She said there's no contract or other documents giving the partner the RV, which would typically means it's not partner's until she can prove it is.

All true, but the question is what would the father have wanted? He obviously cared for this woman in some type of way.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

All true, but the question is what would the father have wanted? He obviously cared for this woman in some type of way.

I get the spirit of it but we're talking about the law. The man is dead, he doesn't have any say in the process, especially since he didn't leave a will.

[GabyKeepsMeWarm]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

All true, but the question is what would the father have wanted? He obviously cared for this woman in some type of way.

My father was in failing health, mind and body for the last several years of his life, and he was NOT using his best judgement in many ways, including this woman. They hadn't even seen each other for over two years. If my father had been able, I believe he would have taken the motor home back to Iowa before he passed, but he wasn't in condition to pull it off.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

My father was in failing health, mind and body for the last several years of his life, and he was NOT using his best judgement in many ways, including this woman. They hadn't even seen each other for over two years. If my father had been able, I believe he would have taken the motor home back to Iowa before he passed, but he wasn't in condition to pull it off.

I don't doubt he was having trouble later in life. Not to sound harsh but if he wasn't impaired, not leaving a will is a pretty shitty thing to do to your kids.

[NinerDoug]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't doubt he was having trouble later in life. Not to sound harsh but if he wasn't impaired, not leaving a will is a pretty shitty thing to do to your kids.

Lots of people die intestate. When that happens, the state essentially provides a will for you. If you were on good terms with your family, it probably tracks pretty closely what you would have put in a will.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by NinerDoug

Lots of people die intestate. When that happens, the state essentially provides a will for you. If you were on good terms with your family, it probably tracks pretty closely what you would have put in a will.

Yeah, that didn't happen for my mother-in-law. She's been sorting out her father's estate since October of last year and it's not slowing down anytime soon. The only thing he left to his kids was a trust that contained his farm and house and some random monetary assets, and the stipulation he put in his trust was that the farm and house couldn't be sold for at least 10 years. All of his kids are in their mid-to-late 60's and he put that in there for a double "**** you" to his kids. The rest of the stuff he left out of the trust he did not put in a will, so the kids are all fighting over it and the state doesn't want anything to do with it.

I guess that follows under your qualifier of whether or not they were on "good terms" but it wasn't like they were estranged or anything. He was just an abusive asshole and wanted to stick it to them one last time from beyond the grave.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

My father was in failing health, mind and body for the last several years of his life, and he was NOT using his best judgement in many ways, including this woman. They hadn't even seen each other for over two years. If my father had been able, I believe he would have taken the motor home back to Iowa before he passed, but he wasn't in condition to pull it off.

Wait. She's been living in it for a couple of years before he died?

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Even if he did give her the RV, it's not legal unless it's done the right way. She said there's no contract or other documents giving the partner the RV, which would typically means it's not partner's until she can prove it is.

If the state retitled it in her name she must have had some supporting documentation - they don't just willy nilly change titles for people.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

If the state retitled it in her name she must have had some supporting documentation - they don't just willy nilly change titles for people.

Of course, already said that. If she did it legally, there's no recourse. The RV belongs to her.

But the OP explicitly said there was no supporting documentation. So either it exists and the OP doesn't know about it or the OP is telling the truth and there's no documentation.

Which is why several people have already said we need more information - specifically, one would have to first look at the title to see if it's signed by him, it's legit his signature, and it was notarized. If all of things are true, she's probably hosed.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Of course, already said that. If she did it legally, there's no recourse. The RV belongs to her.

But the OP explicitly said there was no supporting documentation. So either it exists and the OP doesn't know about it or the OP is telling the truth and there's no documentation.

Which is why several people have already said we need more information - specifically, one would have to first look at the title to see if it's signed by him, it's legit his signature, and it was notarized. If all of things are true, she's probably hosed.

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

Well, after dad died, I discovered this woman had the motor home retitled and registered in her name.

That right there says she either had documentation he isn't aware of that the state agreed as acceptable or she forged documents - which is incredibly hard to prove sans contradictory documentation and typically left up to a court to decide (civil matter)

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

That right there says she either had documentation he isn't aware of that the state agreed as acceptable or she forged documents - which is incredibly hard to prove sans contradictory documentation and typically left up to a court to decide (civil matter)

Um, that's pretty much exactly what I've said in my post in this thread.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Um, that's pretty much exactly what I've said in my post in this thread.

Sorry must have misread what you wrote...my apologies

[GabyKeepsMeWarm]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Is there any chance that he actually did give her the RV? It's not uncommon for an old guy to allow himself to be taken advantage of by a rotten bitch, to avoid being alone.

Doesn’t matter. There is zero paper trail for her claim of the vehicle. Even if he did gift it to her, she hasn’t been able to make any clear claim of it, with the exception of taking claim of it and retitling it.

It’s so ****ed, I get to sound ridiculous and with it, at the same time.

It’s great when we have legal beuaracracy that prevents a guy from going to the DMV, but then walking down the hall with a “title” and getting that shit signed off.