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Old 06-17-2024, 11:06 AM   #1
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Also: Not interested in Academy. Sounds like shit.
The only things we know about it are two of the actors and the setting. A bit early to declare it shit, no?

Either way... we aren't the target audience for this series much like we weren't the target audience for Prodigy and most of you weren't the target audience for Lower Decks.
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Old 06-17-2024, 11:37 AM   #2
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The only things we know about it are two of the actors and the setting. A bit early to declare it shit, no?

Either way... we aren't the target audience for this series much like we weren't the target audience for Prodigy and most of you weren't the target audience for Lower Decks.
No. It sounds like a coming-of-age TV show set in a fictional college. There will be Trek window dressing to appropriate the established universe, and there will be nothing about it to provide storytelling opportunities like previous Trek shows. Hey, kids! Saved By The Bell...in space! But not really in space. Near San Francisco!
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Old 06-17-2024, 06:52 PM   #3
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No. It sounds like a coming-of-age TV show set in a fictional college. There will be Trek window dressing to appropriate the established universe, and there will be nothing about it to provide storytelling opportunities like previous Trek shows. Hey, kids! Saved By The Bell...in space! But not really in space. Near San Francisco!
Ok... I think I understand what you mean. It sounds like shit in the sense that you aren't interested in it. Not necessarily that it sounds like shit as in it going to be a terrible program that even their intended audience won't like.

Perhaps it will be something more like Scrubs but with sci-fi danger instead of comedy. Or Friday Night Lights, Freaks and Geeks, or a Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I'm holding out hope that they learned something from the backlash over Discovery.
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Old 06-18-2024, 12:19 AM   #4
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Ok... I think I understand what you mean. It sounds like shit in the sense that you aren't interested in it. Not necessarily that it sounds like shit as in it going to be a terrible program that even their intended audience won't like.

Perhaps it will be something more like Scrubs but with sci-fi danger instead of comedy. Or Friday Night Lights, Freaks and Geeks, or a Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I'm holding out hope that they learned something from the backlash over Discovery.
Yeah. Just not a mini-genre that I am fond of at all. It would have to be unusually well done to interest me.
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Old 06-19-2024, 03:32 PM   #5
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Well, they were setting up the fat redhead from Discovery to teach at the Academy.

What is she going to teach, "How to get fat despite AI and food tech that helps you stay fit?"
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Old 06-19-2024, 07:09 PM   #6
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Well, they were setting up the fat redhead from Discovery to teach at the Academy.

What is she going to teach, "How to get fat despite AI and food tech that helps you stay fit?"
Well she is an Engineer who was fast tracked through the academy because of her skill, served as XO, and as lead Science officer.

I'm gonna guess she will be teaching Engineering.
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Well she is an Engineer who was fast tracked through the academy because of her skill, served as XO, and as lead Science officer.

I'm gonna guess she will be teaching Engineering.
How to engineer a lifestyle that makes one fat?
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How to engineer a lifestyle that makes one fat?
Theoretical Engineering... the people who made it possible to go from warp 5 on the NX Enterprise to 9.975 on Voyager.
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Old 07-27-2024, 07:22 PM   #9
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Good news, The Doctor from Voyager is going to be a series regular in this. Bad news, several Discovery characters are going to be in it too.

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Well she is an Engineer who was fast tracked through the academy because of her skill, served as XO, and as lead Science officer.

I'm gonna guess she will be teaching Engineering.
Given that she traveled nearly 1000 years into the future, she should really be a student rather than a teacher. Can you imagine bringing someone from the year 1024 to the present day and then expecting them to teach?
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Old 07-27-2024, 11:52 PM   #10
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Given that she traveled nearly 1000 years into the future, she should really be a student rather than a teacher. Can you imagine bringing someone from the year 1024 to the present day and then expecting them to teach?
Depends what they are teaching. For example, Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi could teach Algebra. Several people from that time could teach Latin. Sun Tzu could still teach strategy.

I understand what you are saying, though, and had the same thought. I can't imagine she is teaching any high level classes regardless how much of a prodigy she is.
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The good news is a professor from 1024 would show us how to build roads that didn't go to shit within three years, and our trebuchet game would be on point.
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I originally booed the casting from Discovery but in light of...


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I'll take it and it is a YAY from me. We knew Tilly was gonna be there. That was never in doubt as they set it up at one of the ongoing end scenes of Discovery. I think that she, apart from Burnham, could actually pull off being the orientation/welcome to Star Fleet - 1st years teacher role. It isn't like we really got to see a whole lot of what Tilly could be due to the fact that Burnham ate 80% of the dialogue on the show whether it be her speaking or other characters speaking about her.

Tig Notaro as Jett Reno is a HUGE addition for me. I would 100% watch the Reno/Stammets Power Hour if it were ever to be made. Reno was a highlight in the train wreck that was Discovery. Tig is perfect for the role of Reno.

Odid was a nice break from the typical Starfleet Admiral. I don't know if you will understand what I mean, Lower Decks does a really good job of exaggerating it, but an air of massive overconfidence, bravado, and pomposity that they tend to speak with. They tended to come off as take charge but more often than not were actually dumb, incompetent, or just Badmirals (if you didn't know it... yes, that is a term). Like... anytime I saw an Admiral show up in any of the older Trek series I was always waiting to see what member of the crew they were gonna **** over that time.

Hell... that was a trope that not even the greatness of Picard S3 was able to pull off (Shelby).
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I originally booed the casting from Discovery but in light of...

I'll take it and it is a YAY from me. We knew Tilly was gonna be there. That was never in doubt as they set it up at one of the ongoing end scenes of Discovery. I think that she, apart from Burnham, could actually pull off being the orientation/welcome to Star Fleet - 1st years teacher role. It isn't like we really got to see a whole lot of what Tilly could be due to the fact that Burnham ate 80% of the dialogue on the show whether it be her speaking or other characters speaking about her.

Tig Notaro as Jett Reno is a HUGE addition for me. I would 100% watch the Reno/Stammets Power Hour if it were ever to be made. Reno was a highlight in the train wreck that was Discovery. Tig is perfect for the role of Reno.
Yeah, in terms of characters to continue they certainly could have done worse. But personally I'd rather lop Discovery off the Star Trek tree like a diseased limb and pretend it never happened. So ties to Discovery plus Kurtzman as co-showrunner are two huge strikes against it for me.

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Odid was a nice break from the typical Starfleet Admiral. I don't know if you will understand what I mean, Lower Decks does a really good job of exaggerating it, but an air of massive overconfidence, bravado, and pomposity that they tend to speak with. They tended to come off as take charge but more often than not were actually dumb, incompetent, or just Badmirals (if you didn't know it... yes, that is a term). Like... anytime I saw an Admiral show up in any of the older Trek series I was always waiting to see what member of the crew they were gonna **** over that time.

Hell... that was a trope that not even the greatness of Picard S3 was able to pull off (Shelby).
No, I know what you mean. It's hard to think of an Admiral who wasn't a prick or up to some shit. Maybe Admiral Ross from DS9, but even he ended up being complicit with Section 31.

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Not happening. Have you seen Bakula lately?



They would have to CGI the hell out of his face.
Looks like he could pull off 147 year old Archer on SNW. Star Trek 09 did establish he's still alive around that timeframe (in JJ-verse at least).
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Yeah, in terms of characters to continue they certainly could have done worse. But personally I'd rather lop Discovery off the Star Trek tree like a diseased limb and pretend it never happened. So ties to Discovery plus Kurtzman as co-showrunner are two huge strikes against it for me.



No, I know what you mean. It's hard to think of an Admiral who wasn't a prick or up to some shit. Maybe Admiral Ross from DS9, but even he ended up being complicit with Section 31.



Looks like he could pull off 147 year old Archer on SNW. Star Trek 09 did establish he's still alive around that timeframe (in JJ-verse at least).
A SNW Episode called "The Search for Porthos" where Scotty picks up a signal and figures out that Porthos's transporter signal was caught up in a temporal space rift (or insert other technobable) and the crew reaches out to retired Admiral Archer to let him know that Scotty found the dog he transported away all those years ago.

Hell... Phlox could come along as Archer's personal physician.

Sopmething happens, the crew suffers some sort of malady that forces Archer to take command and Phlox to heal everyone. Archer saves the day, gets his dog back, then goes back home to live out his days feeding cheese to his best friend.

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God damn... I should be a writer. This is gold.
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