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Old 03-29-2023, 08:39 AM  
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***Official 2023 STL Cardinals Thread ***
2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official

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Old 04-01-2023, 01:39 PM   #61
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Shouldn't have been remotely necessary.

Jordan Walker is a god-awful outfielder.
Full time DH isn't a bad thing.
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Full time DH isn't a bad thing.
It is for a 20 year old kid with solid athletic ability.

Don't pigeon hole him. He can be an adequate OFer. He's just going to have to learn on the job.

And I just think that's gonna be an awfully tough ask for a kid that's also adjusting to big league pitching after skipping AAA outright.
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It is for a 20 year old kid with solid athletic ability.

Don't pigeon hole him. He can be an adequate OFer. He's just going to have to learn on the job.

And I just think that's gonna be an awfully tough ask for a kid that's also adjusting to big league pitching after skipping AAA outright.
Yeah, he's not Yepez.
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Yeah, he's not Yepez.
Athletically no - he has the ability that Yepez doesn't.

But man, I think he might actually be a worse OFer than Yepez right now. He's making mental mistakes just about every time he has a chance to. Bad breaks, bad reads, awful decisions with the ball.

He's a mess defensively.
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Athletically no - he has the ability that Yepez doesn't.

But man, I think he might actually be a worse OFer than Yepez right now. He's making mental mistakes just about every time he has a chance to. Bad breaks, bad reads, awful decisions with the ball.

He's a mess defensively.
He’ll learn, and as you said, he’s only 20. He only started playing OF in August last year.

While I’d want him to be a stud defensively, if he’s able to hit, I don’t care as long as he isn’t a complete black hole on the field defensively.
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He’ll learn, and as you said, he’s only 20. He only started playing OF in August last year.

While I’d want him to be a stud defensively, if he’s able to hit, I don’t care as long as he isn’t a complete black hole on the field defensively.
Agreed.

I don't need Heyward out there in RF.

But he's gotta be credible and right now he's not that.

Oh, and LIFT THE DAMN BASEBALL, JORDAN!!!

(still don't like his swing; too much natural power for a swing path that flat)
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Pretty please learn to lift the ball, Jordan?

I mean he's hitting absolute rockets out there. I don't need a 20 degree launch angle here but man if you can just get that up to 12% instead of hitting missiles into the dirt, you're gonna be a DAMN dangerous hitter.

His hustle actually caused that error. Classic case of a guy having plenty of time to settle and throw but he saw Walker sprinting down the line and Biggio rushed the throw. That should've been a pretty routine smother/throw sort of out but Walker's hustle forced the mistake.
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In case y'all were wondering, Jack Flaherty still sucks.

He seems to suck even worse. No snap on his breakers, fastball at 88-90. Shit control.

He might be able to get his slider to work before he hits 100 pitches, but that's it. Nothing else he's throwing looks to be be major league caliber.
the team that put 10 runs on us last game was no hit by him. Yeah 9 walks was bad but he put up the zeros.
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the team that put 10 runs on us last game was no hit by him. Yeah 9 walks was bad but he put up the zeros.
Imma assume you didn't watch him.

He sucked. No life on anything he threw. The slider was working a bit in his last inning but prior to that the hitters were just standing there waiting for him to throw them something.

He essentially lulled them to sleep.

He was bad today, ERA be damned.
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the team that put 10 runs on us last game was no hit by him. Yeah 9 walks was bad but he put up the zeros.
Having 9 walks through 5 innings while pitching like dog shit isn’t a good thing.
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Gausman was good and the Jays sort of blew that any chance at that game. Flaherty was there to be crushed and they let him off the hook repeatedly.
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Gausman was good and the Jays sort of blew that any chance at that game. Flaherty was there to be crushed and they let him off the hook repeatedly.
Makes up for the Cardinals getting BABIP’d to death yesterday.
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