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Old 04-04-2023, 12:04 PM  
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What's going on in Cincinnati?

Can somebody explain what's happening?

Burrow and Chase are both eligible for monstrous deals that will re-set the market. Are neither of them happening?!

They said they are committed to keeping Tee Higgins... alright, fine. But the guy wants a $20m/year contract?

Are they going to just hit the snooze button on this for a year somehow? Are these deals getting done?

What's going on?
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Old 04-04-2023, 07:53 PM   #76
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I'm hoping so and really question why that isn't done yet. It's significant passing game production.
I'm sure they've been in contact. I mean, it just makes no sense for him to do anything else. Nobody's going to pay him, he's been here, he's won a ring, he's in the twilight of his career and this team gave him a shot when nobody else did. Using him the way we do extends his career, and he gets to win.

I'm sure they told him to sit tight, take the money if someone offers it, but they'll circle back and grab him after the Jones extension.

I could be wrong, but I just seriously doubt it.
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Old 04-04-2023, 07:55 PM   #77
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Bungholes lost their two starting safeties and their starting tight end in free agency. The losses of Bell and Bates are significant. Their defensive back end will be nothing like we saw the past two seasons.
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Old 04-04-2023, 07:56 PM   #78
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Well, we beat them with MVS going 6/116 and a TD with Marcus Kemp lining up on the other side, and that's WITH the two excellent safeties and Mahomes on one leg.

So no, I don't think you are being particularly realistic.

I was REALLY nervous, dejected even, when we got down to MVS, Moore, and ****ing Kemp. I figured-that's it. We just don't have enough horses here, and with Mahomes on one leg, it's not enough.

I was wrong.
The reason MVS went off wasn't because he suddenly figured out how to run great routes. the CIN defense treated him like a decoy, and Andy made them pay for it. That's not going to happen again.

You weren't wrong; we all thought the same thing, because that's called reality. Andy went Andy, Pat did Pat things and we got a little lucky with a late call or two. Oh, and Toub. Coach Toub did what everyone didn't want him to do (fans anyway) and let Skyy field/return a punt. Credit where credit is due.
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Old 04-04-2023, 07:57 PM   #79
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Am I the only one that looks at Burrow and thinks maybe he's possibly not as good as he's hyped up to be? Give him only one #1 receiver instead of 2 and another damn good 3rd option and I think he comes back down to earth.
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Old 04-04-2023, 07:59 PM   #80
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I'm sure they've been in contact. I mean, it just makes no sense for him to do anything else. Nobody's going to pay him, he's been here, he's won a ring, he's in the twilight of his career and this team gave him a shot when nobody else did. Using him the way we do extends his career, and he gets to win.

I'm sure they told him to sit tight, take the money if someone offers it, but they'll circle back and grab him after the Jones extension.

I could be wrong, but I just seriously doubt it.
Not to argue, but we both thought exactly the same things about both JJSS and Hardman.

Just the fact we haven't heard a single damned thing about McKinnon makes me uneasy. Especially because in the middle of the season, when JuJu suddenly just disappeared because everyone figured out he couldn't beat man, Jerrick became our other receiver, accounting for more than 500 yards receiving and 10 TDs.

Not that I'd expect him to come back and do quite as well, but 75% of that would probably make things a lot easier.
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:00 PM   #81
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Am I the only one that looks at Burrow and thinks maybe he's possibly not as good as he's hyped up to be? Give him only one #1 receiver instead of 2 and another damn good 3rd option and I think he comes back down to earth.
Thing is, he has two. Or three. But no, he's really good. Burrow is a top-3 QB, probably top-2, and there's no real way around it.
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:02 PM   #82
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Am I the only one that looks at Burrow and thinks maybe he's possibly not as good as he's hyped up to be? Give him only one #1 receiver instead of 2 and another damn good 3rd option and I think he comes back down to earth.
I think the Cincy defense isn't given as much credit as they deserve. Burrow has never needed more than 25 points to win a playoff game. The Chiefs have won multiple playoff games the last two seasons where the defense gave up 35-36 points.

Maybe in the later part of Burrow's career, we will see him put in these situations. So far it hasn't happened, which means he's a bit overrated when some folks out there try to pretend that he's the only reason for Cincy winning games.
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I think the Cincy defense isn't given as much credit as they deserve. Burrow has never needed more than 25 points to win a playoff game. The Chiefs have won multiple playoff games the last two seasons where the defense gave up 35-36 points.

Maybe in the later part of Burrow's career, we will see him put in these situations. So far it hasn't happened, which means he's a bit overrated when some folks out there try to pretend that he's the only reason for Cincy winning games.
Theres that too while he also had a stud TE. Only counter point I can think of is his awful o-line
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Theres that too while he also had a stud TE. Only counter point I can think of is his awful o-line
OL has been a weakness, but seems like Burrow is able to offset this with a very quick release the vast majority of the time. That will continue to be a pretty valuable aspect of Joe's game as the years go by.
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Why are we even discussing Chase? You can't extend a player until he has 3 accrued seasons.

People get so excited about having great players on cheap rookie deals and then can't wait to ruin it.
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Old 04-04-2023, 11:10 PM   #86
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Whatever. They’ll do whatever it takes at this point.

They got to the SB after dominating KC in the AFFCG 2021. And were within a pube of doing it again in 2022. They know they have the team to beat the Chiefs right now, and they have the record to prove it.

It won’t be hard to convince the owner to go all-in on that team to get a SB before KC can restock the team with real WR talent.
I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "dominating".

Getting a one-score win in arguably the worst half of football that Mahomes has ever played is not dominating.

And loosing a game is never within a pube of dominating.
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If they don't have o-line issues they are still a formidable opponent I know everyone has been saying the Jaguars are up next to challenge the Chiefs at the Arrowhead Invitational but I'm not seeing it. I still think it's the Bengals.
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Old 04-05-2023, 05:29 AM   #89
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I'm sure they've been in contact. I mean, it just makes no sense for him to do anything else. Nobody's going to pay him, he's been here, he's won a ring, he's in the twilight of his career and this team gave him a shot when nobody else did. Using him the way we do extends his career, and he gets to win.

I'm sure they told him to sit tight, take the money if someone offers it, but they'll circle back and grab him after the Jones extension.

I could be wrong, but I just seriously doubt it.
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Old 04-05-2023, 05:46 AM   #90
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The reason MVS went off wasn't because he suddenly figured out how to run great routes. the CIN defense treated him like a decoy, and Andy made them pay for it. That's not going to happen again.

You weren't wrong; we all thought the same thing, because that's called reality. Andy went Andy, Pat did Pat things and we got a little lucky with a late call or two. Oh, and Toub. Coach Toub did what everyone didn't want him to do (fans anyway) and let Skyy field/return a punt. Credit where credit is due.
Well, I don't agree that with Marcus Kemp running routes that Cinci was treating MVS as a decoy. I think they knew full well that Kelce with a bad back and MVS was all we had and they still couldn't get it done.

Mahomes was pretty damned heroic. Man, what a great time to be a fan of the Chiefs.
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