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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Old 05-29-2023, 02:29 AM   #736
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"It's about the money" is the fan being selfish. A ring doesn't put the grandkids through college. Roethlisberger and Brady had defenses. Five head only won SBs with defenses.

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Old 05-29-2023, 04:30 AM   #737
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31 is ancient today for WRs : laughingsnidleywhiplashdog:
Who even knows what a snidley is?

Bottom line that we all already know this ends in one of two ways.... if he wants a ring and take less than market value, he'll be on the Chiefs. He wants his bag, it aint happening.
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Old 05-29-2023, 07:40 AM   #739
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"It's about the money" is the fan being selfish.
It's their job - of course it's about the money.

Imagine being at a job interview and someone saying "Well, if you really wanted people to have nice cars you'd take less."

It's a factory job - it's about the money. People want to do a good job but they're there for the money...
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Old 05-29-2023, 07:52 AM   #740
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Who even knows what a snidley is?

Bottom line that we all already know this ends in one of two ways.... if he wants a ring and take less than market value, he'll be on the Chiefs. He wants his bag, it aint happening.
I almost feel sorry for those who don't know who Snidely Whiplash is. Ah, that brings back memories.
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Bottom line that we all already know this ends in one of two ways.... if he wants a ring and take less than market value, he'll be on the Chiefs. He wants his bag, it aint happening.




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Old 05-29-2023, 09:46 AM   #742
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Old 05-29-2023, 10:05 AM   #743
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It's their job - of course it's about the money.

Imagine being at a job interview and someone saying "Well, if you really wanted people to have nice cars you'd take less."

It's a factory job - it's about the money. People want to do a good job but they're there for the money...
Imagine comparing people who are paid hundreds of millions (plus a ton of money from other avenues) to a middle class occupation. Yes, of course, Joe Salesman is going to take every penny he can get.

Thankfully, Mahomes is one of the few who understands that his wealth is already absurd enough.
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Old 05-29-2023, 10:17 AM   #745
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Imagine comparing people who are paid hundreds of millions (plus a ton of money from other avenues) to a middle class occupation. Yes, of course, Joe Salesman is going to take every penny he can get.

Thankfully, Mahomes is one of the few who understands that his wealth is already absurd enough.
That's the reason these people often don't have money long - it doesn't change the way they behave. They still act like it's a factory job instead of life changing because they don't change. They still do the things they did to get there instead of changing appropriately.
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I analyzed all WR who retired after 2000 and had more career yardage that Deandre Hopkins, a total of 25 WR.

At this stage of their careers, (after the season which began when they were 30 years old) only four players have gained more receiving yards at this stage of their career: Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, and Calvin Johnson. This despite having two consecutive years with significant missed games (one due to injury and one due to suspension). So the talent is among the best ever.

Among this group of 25 WRs, at this stage of their careers, they had gained about 64% of their career yardage. Based on the average of these 25 WRs, we might expect something like the following over the next 5 years from Deandre Hopkins:

Year Age Yardage
2023 31 1300
2024 32 1250
2025 33 1150
2026 34 950
2027 35 800
2028 36 600

Or if we ignore his superior performance among this group to date, and only consider average performance from ages 31-33 we could expect:

Year Age Yardage
2023 31 1000
2024 32 1000
2025 33 900

A long term deal where we were essentially tied to him for the next three years has relatively low risk. He should be quite productive over that time span, if he can perform at an average level among players of his caliber.
I’m one of the biggest proponents of a WR1 and not being stingy about it. That being said, it does concern me that he doesn’t practice because he’s managing injury. Something that sounds long term. But yeah, I’m still not entirely opposed to a longer term deal. I just think a short term deal is way better. Main reason for me is just to have a legit WR1 until you sort through the WR room to see what options you have in house.
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It'll probably be to a team that doesn't really have the best championship odds but will offer him more money.
Feels like the Jets are the sweet spot
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