Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by listopencil

If they can't effectively offer an updated version of something from existing content, then leave it alone. Do it well or don't do it.

If you’re referring to the Gorn depictions in SNW, they did it phenomenally well. They made what was effectively long considered a joke into something terrorizing.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If you’re referring to the Gorn depictions in SNW, they did it phenomenally well. They made what was effectively long considered a joke into something terrorizing.

No, they didn't. They created something new in the franchise and gave it the name of something that already existed. The new thing is fun because it hasn't been in Star Trek yet - because it was stolen from the Aliens franchise.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by listopencil

No, they didn't.

Yes, they did. Both Gorn episodes have met with high acclaim and the reason for that is that the vast majority of people who watch SNW aren't looking for any reason they can find to attack the show solely because it doesn't have the look and feel of a 1960s TV no-budget show.

They created something new in the franchise and gave it the name of something that already existed. The new thing is fun because it hasn't been in Star Trek yet - because it was stolen from the Aliens franchise.

This came up last year too here and I have yet to understand why giving the Gorn a similar design to the monsters from the Aliens franchise is a bad thing.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by listopencil

If they can't effectively offer an updated version of something from existing content, then leave it alone. Do it well or don't do it.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If you’re referring to the Gorn depictions in SNW, they did it phenomenally well. They made what was effectively long considered a joke into something terrorizing.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yes, they did. Both Gorn episodes have met with high acclaim and the reason for that is that the vast majority of people who watch SNW aren't looking for any reason they can find to attack the show solely because it doesn't have the look and feel of a 1960s TV no-budget show.


This came up last year too here and I have yet to understand why giving the Gorn a similar design to the monsters from the Aliens franchise is a bad thing.

What you're doing here is employing a straw man (arguing against a narrative rather than what has been brought up) and gatekeeping (trying to squash opposing views as being unworthy of discussion). Try engaging in honest discussion and perhaps you won't be confused.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by listopencil

What you're doing here is employing a straw man (arguing against a narrative rather than what has been brought up)

No, I'm arguing against exactly what has been brought up (that SNW has allegedly done a poor job with their depiction of the Gorn because it isn't enough like the silly design from a 1960s show that had long been considered a joke amongst the fans). Ironically, it is you that are an employing a straw man now.

and gatekeeping (trying to squash opposing views as being unworthy of discussion).

Guilty as charged. Anybody who is actually bitching about something as ridiculous as this after a great episode like that is never going to give SNW a fair shot anyway because it doesn't fit their own personal image of Star Trek.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by listopencil

What you're doing here is employing a straw man (arguing against a narrative rather than what has been brought up) and gatekeeping (trying to squash opposing views as being unworthy of discussion). Try engaging in honest discussion and perhaps you won't be confused.

He's the Looniguana of Media Center. Hasn't made a single valid point, ignores every valid point made by others, and only responds with THE 60S SUCKED and and UR A HATER and DONT WATCH IT.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Frazod

He's the Looniguana of Media Center. Hasn't made a single valid point, ignores every valid point made by others, and only responds with THE 60S SUCKED and and UR A HATER and DONT WATCH IT.

If only this wasn't entirely false. TOS was a great show. Shitting on an otherwise great Trek series because it isn't closely following everything that was done then (including its silly character designs that were only a product of the budgetary/technological constraints of that era) is absolutely ridiculous criticism though.