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Old 11-21-2023, 11:22 AM   #1
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I haven't read the thread.

I just don't know what else you can do at this point.

The defense is balling, Mahomes is making the plays he needs to make, Reid is dialing up good plays.

The receivers just aren't converting. It's that simple. So you just have to hope they start converting and that the Chiefs are better than opponents everywhere else, to the point where a few drops won't kill them.

In the Chiefs defense: I think if you play yesterday's game 10 times, the Chiefs win 6 or 7 of those times. They were the better team yesterday, but their receivers simply aren't good enough, and it's going to cost them if they aren't already housing teams everywhere else on the field.

The only area this team can improve reasonably is by getting the OL to cut down on penalties.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:42 PM   #2
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1. More run plays with better variety. This includes practice. The o-line obviously needs more practice in blocking run plays. Also, like the idea of having two backs in the backfield more often. #10 & #1 are both adept at catching passes out of the backfield. Keep the opposing defenses guessing.
2. More screen passes. More jet sweeps.
3. More 2 TE sets. More targets for TEs not named Kelce. These extra receptions will come at the expense of targets for the WR group. At least until they improve.
4. Cut back on WR rotation. 24 & 11 are backups/special teams.
5. Extra daily sessions with the JUGS machine for all pass catchers.
6. Bring in a fresh face for coaching the WRs. Title does not matter, call him a “consultant” if you want. Preferably a bigger name that has relevant NFL experience & success. Someone that will command immediate respect from the players. Keep, reassign or fire the current WR coach. It would be nice to send a message here, but whatever.
7. Keep #15 happy.
8. Keep #15 healthy
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Old 11-21-2023, 01:56 PM   #3
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Old 11-21-2023, 01:57 PM   #4
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The receivers hit rock bottom yesterday...I believe there is no where to go but up
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Old 11-21-2023, 01:58 PM   #5
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Rice, Toney and MVS for the majority of snaps. These three are your most explosive players.
Hardman for the gadget plays (he's too dim for a larger role).
Moore, and Watson to the bench (nothing special about either one).

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think MVS would improve with additional reps. It's probably pretty hard to come in cold and just perform. I think the more he's in there catching, the better his hands will be.
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Old 11-21-2023, 02:00 PM   #6
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Rice and Toney do not need to come out at all. Rice only playing 57% of the snaps is pitiful. Falls on Reid. Toney and Rice moving forwards. And for ****s sake, if the run is working, keep running the ball!
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Old 11-21-2023, 02:03 PM   #7
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Fire Matt Nagy, and some guy we have coaching WRs
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Old 11-21-2023, 02:43 PM   #8
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We, as fans, do nothing. As frustrating as this is to watch, it has to be 1000 times worse for the players.

I'm ready to let it go and move on to Raider week...
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Old 11-21-2023, 02:44 PM   #9
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I know we all like to claim Andy is pass happy and will move away from the ground game that is working.

I think you have to throw it deep when they load up the box. Our receivers didn't get the job done. Short and simple if they do what they are paid to do we win big.

There is no help coming that is better than we have. I'll try to be patient and hope those guys get it figured out.
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Old 11-21-2023, 03:21 PM   #10
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Apparently they think they're good enough to get the 1 seed while load managing Toney and continuing to bring Rice along slowly. And they might be right, even after pissing away a few games with uncharacteristic mistakes.

There's a small chance that James could be the answer to our prayers. Not that he's going to put up huge numbers, but just be a reliable option to run a proper route and hold on to the damn ball.
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Old 11-21-2023, 03:22 PM   #11
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Enough with the rotation. Rice and Toney or bust.

Where the **** is the screen game?

Get vertical with Rice. He was sold as DeAndre Hopkins 2.0, but we refuse to send him on deep middles or boundary plays.
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Old 11-21-2023, 03:28 PM   #12
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Enough with the rotation. Rice and Toney or bust.

Where the **** is the screen game?

Get vertical with Rice. He was sold as DeAndre Hopkins 2.0, but we refuse to send him on deep middles or boundary plays.
Andy clearly calls the shots, but I'm not a fan of how Nagy is seemingly rubbing off on him... I mean, he's the only major change from last year so I'm not sure who else to blame

I was way down on Bienemy, but at this point I'm starting to miss him
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Old 11-21-2023, 06:25 PM   #13
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Where the **** is the screen game?
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Right next to the play-action passes.
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MVS is who we thought he was. It’s almost unfair to the guy to put him in big moments with the game on the line because he’s not that dude and we are killing whatever ounce of confidence he has left.
What? It's unfair to expect him to catch a perfectly thrown deep ball when he has 2-3 steps on the defender?

GTFO with that bullshit. He's a professional and he should be able to catch that pass in any situation.
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Old 11-21-2023, 04:02 PM   #15
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What? It's unfair to expect him to catch a perfectly thrown deep ball when he has 2-3 steps on the defender?

GTFO with that bullshit. He's a professional and he should be able to catch that pass in any situation.
College kids catch that pass.

High school kids catch that pass.

MVS is a 6-year NFL receiver. Catch the ball in your hands.
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