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Old 09-22-2023, 12:51 PM  
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Chris Jones and his 15+ sacks
Jones got his small bonus.

Week 1: 0
Week 2: 1.5
Week 3: 1.0
Week 4: 1.0
Week 5: 1.0
Week 6: 1.0
Week 7: 0
Week 8: 0
Week 9: 0
Week 10: BYE
Week 11: 2
Week 12: 0
Week 13: 0
Week 14: 0
Week 15: 0
Week 16: 1
Week 17: 1
Week 18: 1

Total: 10.5 Sacks
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Old 12-05-2023, 06:12 PM   #121
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Yup.

Smart move by the Chiefs w/ Jones.

This year has demonstrated why you don’t sign an almost 30 year old DT to a MONSTER contract.

Get the best left in the tank this season (and hopefully in the playoffs, mostly) and then move on and let someone else pay him ridiculous $$$$$.
CJ will probably end up on the Texans next year. Which will give them a actual scary pass rush.
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Old 12-05-2023, 06:25 PM   #122
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He just missed a sack against the Packers, Omenihu got credit for the sack on this play, but at first it looks like Jones had the sack.
Damn, and I bet CJ just misses getting 30 mil/year from KC this off season too.
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Old 12-05-2023, 07:06 PM   #123
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Damn, and I bet CJ just misses getting 30 mil/year from KC this off season too.
George with the spin move Frank taught him.
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Old 12-05-2023, 09:28 PM   #124
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I think we'll miss him, but yeah. At this point I'd much rather use our resources on giving Mahomes some actual weapons. If we can get something out of a tag and trade and use it on a great WR to pair with Rice, I'll take the possible dip in our pass rush.
Sucks because KC chose CJ over Tyreek. But who knew CJ would hold out and want $30 million per?
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Old 12-05-2023, 10:50 PM   #125
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Sucks because KC chose CJ over Tyreek. But who knew CJ would hold out and want $30 million per?
They chose Tyreek. They also chose Chris. They gave them fair market value deals and both guys wanted the moon.

Good for Tyreek but it was wise to not pay that much when you're paying Mahomes.
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Old 12-05-2023, 10:56 PM   #126
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They chose Tyreek. They also chose Chris. They gave them fair market value deals and both guys wanted the moon.

Good for Tyreek but it was wise to not pay that much when you're paying Mahomes.
Yes...and Tyreek was worth and got the moon. CJ isn't worth what the Chiefs offered and I bet they are happy he turned it down.
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Old 12-06-2023, 03:41 AM   #127
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So 5 of the last 6 games, NO SACKS.

Time to step his shit up ASAP
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Old 12-06-2023, 07:49 AM   #128
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To me Sacks are a stat like INTs, where context matters.

Nobody should view an INT as a bad stat if there is :03 seconds left in the half and a QB launches a prayer... or if it's 3rd and 25 from the opposing teams 40 and you launch a ball downfield like a punt.
How many INT's does Mahomes have to carry because his WR's love to tip well throw balls?

A sack on first down for a loss of 3 yards doesn't mean much when the opposing team just gets a first down the next play.

I'm no Chris Jones fan after what he pulled this off season, but I don't think you can judge a player just strictly on paper stat.
I'd much rather look at QB pressures.
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:15 AM   #129
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To me Sacks are a stat like INTs, where context matters.

Nobody should view an INT as a bad stat if there is :03 seconds left in the half and a QB launches a prayer... or if it's 3rd and 25 from the opposing teams 40 and you launch a ball downfield like a punt.
How many INT's does Mahomes have to carry because his WR's love to tip well throw balls?

A sack on first down for a loss of 3 yards doesn't mean much when the opposing team just gets a first down the next play.

I'm no Chris Jones fan after what he pulled this off season, but I don't think you can judge a player just strictly on paper stat.
I'd much rather look at QB pressures.
And double teams he holds up against. He makes plays. We see him disrupt stuff. He not frank Clark getting washed out of the play.
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:36 AM   #130
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Bet we lose CJ at the end of the year!

Possibly Sneed too!

If so, we gotta land big in the draft!
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:38 AM   #131
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Bet we lose CJ at the end of the year!

Possibly Sneed too!

If so, we gotta land big in the draft!
If he still wants $30 million a year then you are correct.
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And double teams he holds up against. He makes plays. We see him disrupt stuff. He not frank Clark getting washed out of the play.
Is that different than last year? Last year he was the best DT in football. Now he’s holding up against double teams.
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:51 AM   #133
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Sucks because KC chose CJ over Tyreek. But who knew CJ would hold out and want $30 million per?
I did.
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Is that different than last year? Last year he was the best DT in football. Now he’s holding up against double teams.
Only the QB is worth 30 mil per year.
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Only the QB is worth 30 mil per year.
I would pay elite DEs that as well. Someone like Watt, Bosa (Nick), and Garrett would justify it. Not a DT pushing 30.
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