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Old 12-11-2024, 03:49 PM   #1
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The problem with that logic is what LT is out there that we could have purchased instead? The real issue is the scarcity of good players at the LT position.
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Old 12-11-2024, 04:09 PM   #2
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The problem with that logic is what LT is out there that we could have purchased instead? The real issue is the scarcity of good players at the LT position.
Nobody yet.

And Creed hasn't cost any money yet.

The point isn't that it's impacted us to this stage as the contract hasn't kicked in. It's that it very well COULD going forward and this season (and previous ones) demonstrate very clearly how.

A guy like Cam Robinson is going to be more difficult for us to sign and firm up the LT position for the next several years because we'll have Creed's contract on the books instead.

Nobody's frustrated by what the contract HAS done - it hasn't started yet. The conversation is as to what the contract COULD do in the future.
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Old 12-11-2024, 04:15 PM   #3
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Nobody yet.

And Creed hasn't cost any money yet.

The point isn't that it's impacted us to this stage as the contract hasn't kicked in. It's that it very well COULD going forward and this season (and previous ones) demonstrate very clearly how.

A guy like Cam Robinson is going to be more difficult for us to sign and firm up the LT position for the next several years because we'll have Creed's contract on the books instead.

Nobody's frustrated by what the contract HAS done - it hasn't started yet. The conversation is as to what the contract COULD do in the future.
It won’t start kicking in until 2026. Chris, Kelce and Thuney will all be gone. Sure we’ll have paid McDuffie and Bolton but space will be there.

And yeah I get the premise of this point. I think it applies better to Nick Bolton, who is not the best at his position like Creed Humphrey.

Edit-Chris will likely be gone in 2027 not 2026
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Old 12-11-2024, 04:21 PM   #4
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It won’t start kicking in until 2026. Chris, Kelce and Thuney will all be gone. Sure we’ll have paid McDuffie and Bolton but space will be there.

And yeah I get the premise of this point. I think it applies better to Nick Bolton, who is not the best at his position like Creed Humphrey.
I still feel like we're hand-waiving his impact on how good our run defense has been this year.

Bolton's going to be a major part of that.

If we try Tranquil at that spot next year, our run defense is going to suck eggs.

May be necessary; there's only so much money to go around. But I think it will absolutely be impactful.
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Nobody yet.

And Creed hasn't cost any money yet.

The point isn't that it's impacted us to this stage as the contract hasn't kicked in. It's that it very well COULD going forward and this season (and previous ones) demonstrate very clearly how.

A guy like Cam Robinson is going to be more difficult for us to sign and firm up the LT position for the next several years because we'll have Creed's contract on the books instead.

Nobody's frustrated by what the contract HAS done - it hasn't started yet. The conversation is as to what the contract COULD do in the future.
Id argue it is affecting our decision making this year because we need to position ourselves in the future for certain positions & contracts. Already having Creed on the books going forward hampers us to some degree even this year when in my opinion it was not a needed signing. I'm not disagreeing just my point of view.
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