Chiefs LNBS: Why were the Chiefs bad in the 1980s?

**HemiEd** · 12-27-2024, 11:10 AM

Without reading all the posts, much of the blame goes to Hank Stram for not bringing on new talent and sticking with the older guys too long until they were done.

They had poor luck drafting Lenny Dawson's replacement. Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge, both first round picks, were a horrible busts.

The Head Coach choices were pathetic, Marv Levy brought on the winged T which was an embarrassment. John Mackovic was horrible, Frank Ganz was a great special teams coach but not head coach.

Marty was such a welcome relief.

**Shiver Me Timbers** · 12-27-2024, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Without reading all the posts, much of the blame goes to Hank Stram for not bringing on new talent and sticking with the older guys too long until they were done.

They had poor luck drafting Lenny Dawson's replacement. Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge, both first round picks, were a horrible busts.

The Head Coach choices were pathetic, Marv Levy brought on the winged T which was an embarrassment. John Mackovic was horrible, Frank Ganz was a great special teams coach but not head coach.

Marty was such a welcome relief.

Marty Ball forever (it seemed). I did love that guy. RIP

**HemiEd** · 12-27-2024, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Marty Ball forever (it seemed). I did love that guy. RIP

10-6 forever and a wild card shot.

KingPriest2 · 12-28-2024, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Without reading all the posts, much of the blame goes to Hank Stram for not bringing on new talent and sticking with the older guys too long until they were done.

They had poor luck drafting Lenny Dawson's replacement. Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge, both first round picks, were a horrible busts.

The Head Coach choices were pathetic, Marv Levy brought on the winged T which was an embarrassment. John Mackovic was horrible, Frank Ganz was a great special teams coach but not head coach.

Marty was such a welcome relief.

Sram? Lol He was gone way before the 80s. He was not the reason why. Wow o can see the 70s. But not the 80s

JohnnyV13 · 12-28-2024, 01:25 PM

Well, u don't need George. I am old enough to remember. When I was 5 years old Jim Tyrer used to live across the street, and Fred Arbanas lived one block away. Jan Stenerud was a patient of my Dad's as well as Vince Costellio, who was the MLB for the Browns during the Jim Brown Era and was the Chiefs d-coordinator in the late 70s.

My father's medical office was also in the same building as Chiefs team doctor Jon Browne in the late 80s and through the 90s.

I've been a Chiefs fan forever.

The biggest reason the Chiefs failed in the 80s can be summed up in two words: Jim Schaaf.

He was the GM after Jack Steadman and kept the job until Carl Petersrn came in 1989. Schaaf was terrible. Just look at the drafts.

Not only did they blow the Blackledge pick (over Jim Kelly and Dan Marino, Marv Levy wanted a mobile qb and Schaaf took Steve Fuller over Joe Montana (who was quite mobile when young and had just won a national title at Notre Dame). Teams passed on Montana bc he didn't have ideal size and had a mediocre arm.

Deberg_1990 · 12-28-2024, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

The biggest reason the Chiefs failed in the 80s can be summed up in two words: Jim Schaaf.

He was the GM after Jack Steadman and kept the job until Carl Petersrn came in 1989. Schaaf was terrible. Just look at the drafts.

Yea. I think he just drew names out of a hat. 🎩

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HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-429436	Without reading all the posts, much of the blame goes to Hank Stram for not bringing on new talent and sticking with the older guys too long until they were done. They had poor luck drafting Lenny Dawson's replacement. Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge, both first round picks, were a horrible busts. The Head Coach choices were pathetic, Marv Levy brought on the winged T which was an embarrassment. John Mackovic was horrible, Frank Ganz was a great special teams coach but not head coach. Marty was such a welcome relief.
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JohnnyV13 Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Casino cash: $5385200	Well, u don't need George. I am old enough to remember. When I was 5 years old Jim Tyrer used to live across the street, and Fred Arbanas lived one block away. Jan Stenerud was a patient of my Dad's as well as Vince Costellio, who was the MLB for the Browns during the Jim Brown Era and was the Chiefs d-coordinator in the late 70s. My father's medical office was also in the same building as Chiefs team doctor Jon Browne in the late 80s and through the 90s. I've been a Chiefs fan forever. The biggest reason the Chiefs failed in the 80s can be summed up in two words: Jim Schaaf. He was the GM after Jack Steadman and kept the job until Carl Petersrn came in 1989. Schaaf was terrible. Just look at the drafts. Not only did they blow the Blackledge pick (over Jim Kelly and Dan Marino, Marv Levy wanted a mobile qb and Schaaf took Steve Fuller over Joe Montana (who was quite mobile when young and had just won a national title at Notre Dame). Teams passed on Montana bc he didn't have ideal size and had a mediocre arm. Last edited by JohnnyV13; 12-28-2024 at 01:37 PM..
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