Offensive struggles the last 2 years are personnel driven, not coaching

[RunKC]

Idk how anyone cannot see this.

Andy Reid stood at the combine in 2023 and said Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney were their top WR’s. We saw how that went.

In fact, can anyone tell me without looking what WR has had the most snaps of any Chiefs WR the last 2 seasons? Anyone? Ready for it? It’s Justin Watson. Nobody has played more snaps at that position than him the last 2 years.

Don’t even get me started on the OL. A late 3rd and late 2nd on tackles are considered projects. They are not real shots at a LT historically speaking. Shocking that they turned out to look like projects.
We have had 5 starting LT’s the last 2 years. FIVE.

The RB room had the least explosive plays of any RB room in the entire league. Only 17 10+ explosive plays all year. We even had some loser with an Alligator that plays FB take starting snaps

I get that it sucked losing Pacheco, Hollywood and Rashee. I understand and am not faulting Veach. The fact is that Kareem Hunt, Juju, DeAndre Hopkins and Travis Kelce are old. They aren’t explosive anymore. That was painfully clear tonight. It’s why Veach doesn’t like signing 30+ year old players unless he absolutely has to.

Again this isn’t a Veach bitch fest it’s just the facts. I think Veach is gonna take a hammer to this offense and hard after OL and explosive playmakers.

Thankfully he’s got an extra pick early thanks to Sneed

[wannaGOback]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The Chiefs averaged 28 PPG in the 4 games before the SB when Thuney took over at LT and Hollywood came back. All 4 games vs playoff teams.

It’s a talent problem

Hey simple question. Do you believe Washington has the more talented WR room than the chiefs?

Or you can answer do they have the more talented QB?

Or maybe they have a more talented OL?

Any of those 3 at all? Like just one? IF NOT

Why did they put up 300+ yards vs eagles all 3 meetings and we put up 150 before they put in their second string. Why did we have 24 yards of scrimmage 20 minutes of game time off the clock?

Please answer these simple questions sir since you seem to be clearly ignoring what should be easy to answer based on your stated premise.

Thank you.

[DenverChief]

The offensive struggles are directly related to the OL. We haven’t had explosiveness at RB since before Pacheco was hurt and prior to that Hunt.

Kareem Hunt 4.9 ypc in 2017 Long 69
Kareem Hunt 4.6 ypc in 2018 (11 games) Long 45
Damian Williams 4.5 ypc in 2019 Long 91
CEH 4.4 ypc in 2020 Long 31
CEH 4.3 ypc in 2021 Long 17
Pacheco 4.9 ypc in 2022 Long 31
Pacheco 4.6 ypc in 2023 Long 48
Kareem Hunt 3.8 ypc in 2024 (13 games) Long 20
Pacheco 3.6 ypc in 2024 (7 games) Long 34

For reference Jamaal Charles averaged at least 5.0 ypc in his 8 years with the chiefs …maxed out at 6.9 Ypc in 2011

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by wannaGOback

Hey simple question. Do you believe Washington has the more talented WR room than the chiefs?

Or you can answer do they have the more talented QB?

Or maybe they have a more talented OL?

Any of those 3 at all? Like just one? IF NOT

Why did they put up 300+ yards vs eagles all 3 meetings and we put up 150 before they put in their second string. Why did we have 24 yards of scrimmage 20 minutes of game time off the clock?

Please answer these simple questions sir since you seem to be clearly ignoring what should be easy to answer based on your stated premise.

Thank you.

Mahomes was pressured on 40-50% of his dropbacks in that timespan. Pretty hard to do much of anything with that kind of pressure in your face. I wouldn't even say we have poor talent at OL.

I honestly have no idea why we got blown out. This game still confuses me.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

We live and die with Mahomes. He didn't play like the legend he is tonight.

He played like a Frog and not a Prince..

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Mahomes was pressured on 40-50% of his dropbacks in that timespan. Pretty hard to do much of anything with that kind of pressure in your face. I wouldn't even say we have poor talent at OL.

I honestly have no idea why we got blown out. This game still confuses me.

The OL is better than they showed tonight.

The OL issues weren’t a season long issue as some believe.

There was a 6 game stretch where most of the suck happened.

Tonight was the worst of it unfortunately.

[wannaGOback]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Mahomes was pressured on 40-50% of his dropbacks in that timespan. Pretty hard to do much of anything with that kind of pressure in your face. I wouldn't even say we have poor talent at OL.

I honestly have no idea why we got blown out. This game still confuses me.

I won’t lie to you and say that Washington was pressured just as much as Mahomes early on. But Washington did face significant pressure something like 30-40% in that game and was wildly more successful than the chiefs at simply moving the ball. They have a more advanced RPO scheme than we even used against Buffalo(our best offensive game of the year) but abandoned vs the Eagles. They also didn’t stupidly have a 10+ depth of target for all receivers on obvious passing downs. Mahomes missed Kelce on one 1st down and they pivoted out of a winning strategy. The chiefs had one first down in the first 20 minutes of the game. Serious accountability has to be addressed.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Mahomes was pressured on 40-50% of his dropbacks in that timespan. Pretty hard to do much of anything with that kind of pressure in your face. I wouldn't even say we have poor talent at OL.

I honestly have no idea why we got blown out. This game still confuses me.

You must be really confused if you don't think our Oline sucks..

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by scho63

You must be really confused if you don't think our Oline sucks..

The whole is worse than the sum of its parts.

It’s better than whatever tonight was though.

LT is priority #1, because we need to get Thuney back to LG.

Caliendo can’t see the field again.

[wannaGOback]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

The whole is worse than the sum of its parts.

It’s better than whatever tonight was though.

LT is priority #1, because we need to get Thuney back to LG.

Caliendo can’t see the field again.

Totally agree. Thuney was a bandaid on a bullet hole and the eagles ripped it right off.

Think the more reasonable question to fixing it wouldn’t be who we can put there so we can try and play the way we want but how can we play around it?

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by wannaGOback

I won’t lie to you and say that Washington was pressured just as much as Mahomes early on. But Washington did face significant pressure something like 30-40% in that game and was wildly more successful than the chiefs at simply moving the ball. They have a more advanced RPO scheme than we even used against Buffalo(our best offensive game of the year) but abandoned vs the Eagles. They also didn’t stupidly have a 10+ depth of target for all receivers on obvious passing downs. Mahomes missed Kelce on one 1st down and they pivoted out of a winning strategy. The chiefs had one first down in the first 20 minutes of the game. Serious accountability has to be addressed.

They also have the benefit of playing them twice a year and being more familiar with them.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Losing your #1 WR [Rice] will cause a hit.

And don't forget it will cause a big hit next year too, because I assure you he'll miss a minimum of six games if not 1/2 or more of the season to start.

[RunKC]

The footage from this game is brutal. Andy tried everything. Screens, YAC plays, even running a few times which went nowhere.

Talent has tied his hands so badly man. We need to fix this this offseason

[MahomesMagic]

And 2 of Washington's OL were former Chiefs who were smoked by Tampa in that SB in Wylie and Allegretti.

[Sassy Squatch]

Bullshit. Don't bash your head into a wall with the same OL group that clearly isn't working and is makeshift to begin with. Throw Humphries out and shift Thuney inside. Go heavy and line up Humphries as the 6th man. ****ing do SOMETHING.

Tied his own damn hands pencilling in a raw as **** rookie that obviously should've been redshirted and it culminated in that ****ing disaster last night. This was a self inflicted problem.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by New World Order

We’ve drafted around the 30th pick in the first round for the last 6 drafts.

We traded for or signed multiple players IN-SEASON this year.

Pretty remarkable we’ve been able to hold it together for this long

This all day.

Amazing job by everyone from ownership down. Just went through the greatest stretch of success in NFL history FFS.