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Old Yesterday, 08:08 PM   #1
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Mcduffie yup

Not sold on karloftis, hope he improves.
Not sold on a top-25 pass rusher who is only 24 years old? Know what Trey Hendrickson was doing at 24? Playing special teams. He had a better season at 23 than Clowney ever had, and people jerk off around here to sign him every offseason. Etc.

There are maybe 7-8 consistently elite pass rushers in the NFL. After that, it's a bunch of guys that bounce around between 6 and 12 sacks, usually with several years between those 10-12 sack seasons.

Karlaftis is a very good player who is getting better each season. He's easily worth that 5th year option tag.
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Old Yesterday, 10:55 PM   #3
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Mcduffie yup

Not sold on karloftis, hope he improves.
not everyone can be Derrick Thomas or Bruce Smith but he's pretty damn good for us. Best LE we've had since Neil Smith probably.
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Old Today, 01:18 AM   #4
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Not sold on a top-25 pass rusher who is only 24 years old? Know what Trey Hendrickson was doing at 24? Playing special teams. He had a better season at 23 than Clowney ever had, and people jerk off around here to sign him every offseason. Etc.

There are maybe 7-8 consistently elite pass rushers in the NFL. After that, it's a bunch of guys that bounce around between 6 and 12 sacks, usually with several years between those 10-12 sack seasons.

Karlaftis is a very good player who is getting better each season. He's easily worth that 5th year option tag.
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not everyone can be Derrick Thomas or Bruce Smith but he's pretty damn good for us. Best LE we've had since Neil Smith probably.
it's kinda like back in the day when we drafted simms. he was only good in college because he was playing next to a stud named julius peppers.

my gut says his production is purely tied to working on the same line as CJ.

i like the guy, not saying his fifth shouldn't be picked up, i just think if he was on any other line, he wouldn't be as good.
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it's kinda like back in the day when we drafted simms. he was only good in college because he was playing next to a stud named julius peppers.

my gut says his production is purely tied to working on the same line as CJ.

i like the guy, not saying his fifth shouldn't be picked up, i just think if he was on any other line, he wouldn't be as good.
He was a major factor in the playoffs. Including a 3 sack game, he's a baller
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Old Today, 01:29 AM   #6
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He was a major factor in the playoffs. Including a 3 sack game, he's a baller
i will compromise. im good with them picking up the fifth.

but i will be back when it's time for him to sign a new contract.
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i will compromise. im good with them picking up the fifth.

but i will be back when it's time for him to sign a new contract.
I wouldn't want Veach to give him a Myles Garrett type of deal or anything too close to that even if he has a monster season and I think he will. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. We got them for at least 2 more seasons. I'd prioritize McDuffie tho, he's special especially if he can be in the slot and he should be able to this year
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Old Today, 02:39 AM   #8
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I wouldn't want Veach to give him a Myles Garrett type of deal or anything too close to that even if he has a monster season and I think he will. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. We got them for at least 2 more seasons. I'd prioritize McDuffie tho, he's special especially if he can be in the slot and he should be able to this year
if we could sign mcduffie for ten years now i would, and i was not sold on him at the beginning.

he doesn't need ten int's a year to be effective. and i think this is where i differ with george. he NEEDS ten plus sacks to make an impact. i haven't watched any clips lately, but i feel from memory, he gets eaten up a bit on the outside.

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