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Old 05-13-2025, 02:21 PM  
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"Shoeless" Joe Jackson and Pete Rose removed from MLB ineligible list.
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:17 PM   #16
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And the greatest of all time, Barry Bonds, still won't get in to that joke HOF.
Yup, he should be in as should Mcgwire.
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:19 PM   #17
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**** Barry Bonds.
You're anti drug now?
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:19 PM   #18
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Bonds was intentionally walked 688 times. Next closest i believe is Pujols at 316.

He was walked with the bases EMPTY 41 times. Next most was 10.

He is one of five guys in the history of MLB to be walked intentionally with the bases loaded.

Bro was feared and it was glorious to watch.
Dude had stats even greater than Babe Ruth, I don't care what he injected it was fun to watch.
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:20 PM   #19
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You're anti drug now?
If you don’t know where I stand after 2 decades of the same phrase then I think we can safely say I’m anti drugs for you.
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:20 PM   #20
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Yup, he should be in as should Mcgwire.
Bonds yes since he was a great player before taking steroids.

McGwire and Sosa? Less clear.
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:21 PM   #21
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If you don’t know where I stand after 2 decades of the same phrase then I think we can safely say I’m anti drugs for you.
Perhaps you met Barry and don't like him? What's the deal?
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Old 05-13-2025, 03:22 PM   #22
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Bonds yes since he was a great player before taking steroids.

McGwire and Sosa? Less clear.
Sosa actually got caught with a corked bat though, he also wasn't as great average or on base wise as Mcgwire.
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Bonds yes since he was a great player before taking steroids.

McGwire and Sosa? Less clear.
They saved baseball. Steroid era was based and the best era of MLB. Let em all in. It's not like it was just one or two players, everyone was on the juice.
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Far worse than gambling on games he managed is the inarguable evidence that Rose was a pederast.
I didn't follow Pete that closely but woah I didn't know that.
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I still don’t like it. Sports betting and the integrity games couldn’t be any more important. I don’t have an issue with drawing a clear line that betting on games is absolutely forbidden. It is the one cardinal sin.

And throwing games is another thing. And both rose and shoeless joe did just that. Pete did it by intentionally not betting certain games. Shoeless Joe did it despite people confusing his stat padding performance during meaningless innings while he was suspiciously horrific in innings that did.

I agree on bonds and company. Cheating to win is way better than cheating to lose. Especially when there’s so much gray area around that. But before you do any of that, let curt schilling in, because not liking a guy because of his opinions is a disgraceful reason not to induct someone.
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I still don’t like it. Sports betting and the integrity games couldn’t be any more important. I don’t have an issue with drawing a clear line that betting on games is absolutely forbidden. It is the one cardinal sin.

And throwing games is another thing. And both rose and shoeless joe did just that. Pete did it by intentionally not betting certain games. Shoeless Joe did it despite people confusing his stat padding performance during meaningless innings while he was suspiciously horrific in innings that did.

I agree on bonds and company. Cheating to win is way better than cheating to lose. Especially when there’s so much gray area around that. But before you do any of that, let curt schilling in, because not liking a guy because of his opinions is a disgraceful reason not to induct someone.
They should let Schilling in because he made a better Bethesda game then Bethesda and lost his arse on it.
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I still don’t like it. Sports betting and the integrity games couldn’t be any more important. I don’t have an issue with drawing a clear line that betting on games is absolutely forbidden. It is the one cardinal sin.
Cardinals play on Fanduel Network. MLB is thoroughly in bed with gambling now. It's time to move on and embrace it especially when all the stadiums are plastered with gambling sponsorships.
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