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Old 05-13-2025, 02:21 PM  
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"Shoeless" Joe Jackson and Pete Rose removed from MLB ineligible list.
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Old 05-13-2025, 04:56 PM   #61
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This should have happened when shoeless joe made an appearance in a field in iowa

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Old 05-13-2025, 04:58 PM   #62
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Because he was a terrible individual who couldn't stop embarrassing himself. Since he's dead you don't have to actually deal with Pete Rose.
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Take Ty Cobb out of the HOF if simply being a “terrible individual” was enough of a threshold to keep Rose’s ban in place.


Yeah, the whole "he was a bad person" thing is just a stupid reason to keep Rose out. They kept him out because he gambled on the game, which at least made some kind of sense, until MLB got in bed with gambling then it didn't. It was politics, plain and simple. Enough people in power, that could affect such decision, didn't like Rose, so they blackballed him.
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Old 05-13-2025, 04:58 PM   #63
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Pete was getting his gambling money by signing autographs at Caesars Palace.
Piece of shit wasn’t good enough for Caesar’s Palace it was at the ****ing mall in between Luxor and Mandalay Bay
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Old 05-13-2025, 04:59 PM   #64
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Piece of shit wasn’t good enough for Caesar’s Palace it was at the ****ing mall in between Luxor and Mandalay Bay
I saw him at a sports memorabilia store in the forums shop in 2009. I was wearing my Pujols jersey at the time, I thought about talking to him but I figured he'd try to charge me.

Nobody was in there.
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Old 05-13-2025, 05:00 PM   #65
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Yeah, the whole "he was a bad person" thing is just a stupid reason to keep Rose out. They kept him out because he gambled on the game, which at least made some kind of sense, until MLB got in bed with gambling then it didn't. It was politics, plain and simple. Enough people in power, that could affect such decision, didn't like Rose, so they blackballed him.
It's not so much he was a bad person. He was an embarrassment as an individual, they didn't want to attach MLB to him when at any moment he could say or do something abhorrent.

If Pete had just shut the **** up this would have been solved years ago but he just couldn't.
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Old 05-13-2025, 05:00 PM   #66
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You are crediting Trump for this?

Fine with me.
Yes, that’s what changed. If we’re talking about PR stunts, there you go. Everyone is playing their part, even MLB. Whatever.
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Old 05-13-2025, 05:01 PM   #67
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McGwire has admitted to using steroids as early as 1989… his third year in the majors.

That means he was taking steroids for 14 of his 17 seasons in MLB… if you believe he didn’t start before 1989.

Link: https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607

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"Rose acknowledged he had a sexual relationship with the woman in court documents made public Monday, but he said his information and belief was that it started when she was 16. He was 34, married and the father of two children in 1975, when he says he began having sex with the woman, referred to in the filing as "Jane Doe." Rose said he does not recall how long the relationship lasted."

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It's not so much he was a bad person. He was an embarrassment as an individual, they didn't want to attach MLB to him when at any moment he could say or do something abhorrent.

If Pete had just shut the **** up this would have been solved years ago but he just couldn't.

I could probably agree with this part. Kind of similar to TO's situation for a minute. If he'd just kept his mouth shut and played ball, he probably would've played a few more years, and probably would've gotten into the HoF sooner.
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The latest Dollop episodes are on Pete Rose and yea... Pete's basically an idiot of epic proportions and a pretty awful person.
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What?

What did he say?

Bonds could play defense, he hit for high average, power and had speed to steal bases when he 1st came into the league.

In overall talent and ability, McGwire couldn't make the stain on Bonds jock the 1st 6 years of their careers!

FTM, even a career.
No one is saying Bonds wasn’t great. It’s countering that McGwire did nothing in his first few years - presumably free of PEDs - that indicated he could be elite enough to make the HOF without juicing.

And if they were all doing steroids from the start, then does that make it better that Bonds was just a better player on steroids than others?
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You are crediting Trump for this?

Fine with me.
I do think that's a significant part of this, yeah. Manfred/the owners don't give a shit about Pete Rose, but they would care about pissing Trump off.
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Everyone does it so we should just overlook it. Right?
With the steroid era? Yes, of course. It literally saved baseball after the 94 strike.
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Everyone does what? We got a couple different things going on here right now
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