"Shoeless" Joe Jackson and Pete Rose removed from MLB ineligible list.

[George Liquor]

https://nypost.com/2025/05/13/sports...ns-in-shocker/

Soon to be Hall of Famers?

[Ocotillo]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The Reds were ahead 4-0 before the White Sox even stepped a foot into the batters box. The homerun came in his 2nd plate appearance in the 3rd inning. What a stupid ****ing argument.

A solo home run with two out. It's a pretty safe time to be aggressive down 5-0.

This is from his Total Baseball bio. I don't know where they are citing this.

Jackson had batted .375 during the 1919 Series, but admitted he had failed to hustle after balls hit to left field, had made several weak throws, and had struck out in key situations. "I got a big load off my chest!" he concluded.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

I don't know where they are citing this.

Cool.

Because the only thing I recall from his testimony to confessing to was taking the $5k that was handed to him and believing he was going to be given another $15k. No where did he admit to not playing to the best of his ability. Quite literally, if the player with the highest WPA in the series didn't admit to taking money while never being directly involved in any of the planning, no one would be questioning if he threw anything. The money is the only thing that brings anything into question.

[Mescalito345]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And the greatest of all time, Barry Bonds, still won't get in to that joke HOF.

And some of the players who got into the HOF did the same things that Barry did.

[BEAVER]

If ****ing Ty cobb is in all these guys should be in:


But the most outrageous incident might be what happened more than a century ago today. While playing against the Highlanders in New York, Cobb was so incensed by remarks from a heckler named Claude Lucker that he charged into the stands and attacked the man. As Cobb began beating and stomping the man with those razor-sharp cleats that had punished so many basemen, a crew of his teammates held people at bay. Some in the crowd protested, since Lucker had lost all of one hand and most of the other in an industrial accident, and couldn't defend himself with his fists. A cry went up: “Cobb, that man has no hands!” Cobb reportedly yelled back in a psychotic rage, “I don’t care if he got no feet!” Protected by his teammates, the beating went on until a cop and an umpire led Cobb away.

[George Liquor]

As Frazod stated earlier: most of the Cobb stuff was rumors spread by a bitter sportswriter named Al Stump.

https://youtu.be/XzbJn2UAoIs?si=Diw6Gx1P3-RYGY4s

Inb4 PragerU blah blah blah

[BEAVER]

Originally Posted by George Liquor

As Frazod stated earlier: most of the Cobb stuff was rumors spread by a bitter sportswriter named Al Stump.

https://youtu.be/XzbJn2UAoIs?si=Diw6Gx1P3-RYGY4s

Inb4 PragerU blah blah blah

Well, damn. I like a good yarn about a real asswipe.

I am saddened it isn't true.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BEAVER

If ****ing Ty cobb is in all these guys should be in:


But the most outrageous incident might be what happened more than a century ago today. While playing against the Highlanders in New York, Cobb was so incensed by remarks from a heckler named Claude Lucker that he charged into the stands and attacked the man. As Cobb began beating and stomping the man with those razor-sharp cleats that had punished so many basemen, a crew of his teammates held people at bay. Some in the crowd protested, since Lucker had lost all of one hand and most of the other in an industrial accident, and couldn't defend himself with his fists. A cry went up: “Cobb, that man has no hands!” Cobb reportedly yelled back in a psychotic rage, “I don’t care if he got no feet!” Protected by his teammates, the beating went on until a cop and an umpire led Cobb away.

Good. Asshole heckler had it coming.

[George Liquor]

Originally Posted by BEAVER

Well, damn. I like a good yarn about a real asswipe.

I am saddened it isn't true.

I had always lived under the assumption Cobb was a world class prick too.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Take Ty Cobb out of the HOF if simply being a “terrible individual” was enough of a threshold to keep Rose’s ban in place.

Ty Cobb's reputation is greatly exaggerated.

A hack author ruined his image.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Zilla is correct on Shoeless Joe.

His stats in the Sox's losses are suspect.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by George Liquor

As Frazod stated earlier: most of the Cobb stuff was rumors spread by a bitter sportswriter named Al Stump.

https://youtu.be/XzbJn2UAoIs?si=Diw6Gx1P3-RYGY4s

Inb4 PragerU blah blah blah

Yup. Cobb's reputation has been smeared.

There were only three contemporaries at his funeral because it was a private affair and he outlived many of his peers.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut

Yup. Cobb's reputation has been smeared.

There were only three contemporaries at his funeral because it was a private affair and he outlived many of his peers.

Anyone interested should check out Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty by Charles Leerhsen. Prior to reading this, I had the Cobb movie DVD and the Stump book it was based on. After reading it, I threw both of them in the trash. I hate being duped.

EDIT - and the video that George posted is of the very author I mentioned above.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BEAVER

If ****ing Ty cobb is in all these guys should be in:


But the most outrageous incident might be what happened more than a century ago today. While playing against the Highlanders in New York, Cobb was so incensed by remarks from a heckler named Claude Lucker that he charged into the stands and attacked the man. As Cobb began beating and stomping the man with those razor-sharp cleats that had punished so many basemen, a crew of his teammates held people at bay. Some in the crowd protested, since Lucker had lost all of one hand and most of the other in an industrial accident, and couldn't defend himself with his fists. A cry went up: “Cobb, that man has no hands!” Cobb reportedly yelled back in a psychotic rage, “I don’t care if he got no feet!” Protected by his teammates, the beating went on until a cop and an umpire led Cobb away.

Originally Posted by loochy

Good. Asshole heckler had it coming.

Let's heckle him back.

Hey, Lucker! How many days since your last workplace accident? I bet you can count them on the fingers of one hand!

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by Katipan

**** Barry Bonds.

Agreed.

Anyone wearing robocop armor can stay in on 92mph breaking balls.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Agreed.

Anyone wearing robocop armor can stay in on 92mph breaking balls.

Yep. Same with Biggio. Neither one of the ****ers should have been able to get away with that shit.