"Shoeless" Joe Jackson and Pete Rose removed from MLB ineligible list.

[George Liquor]

https://nypost.com/2025/05/13/sports...ns-in-shocker/

Soon to be Hall of Famers?

[Nickhead]

this is chicken shit tactics. they should have done this years ago.

that said. there is no reason that OJ's bust should still be in Canton, irregardless!

[Yo Murphy.]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

this is chicken shit tactics. they should have done this years ago.

that said. there is no reason that OJ's bust should still be in Canton, irregardless!

Know one of the guys on the road crew that found his bust off 77 and E30th back in 95. To hear the full story is funny said he chucked it in the backseat of the city vehicle like it was scrap metal.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Damn, thread has gotten long in a hurry. Has anyone made a lame joke about how Shoeless Joe can now stop haunting random cornfields, and Kevin Costner’s dad can finally rest in peace?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

I just want to say…


Pete Rose people, hillbilly Cincinnati bundle of sticks weirdos…. That’s your crew.

This dude willfully signed an agreement with Giamatti, basically allowing Rose’s files to remain sealed. Pete did this on his own as an adult grown man. MLB went out of their way to avoid this in the late 80’s.

How would this have helped MLB? It didn’t. MLB and the whole world had the goods on Pete Rose. Pete knew it. He had been cheating taxes for years, and finally got popped and did time. He ****ed teenagers. And if you’re naive enough to believe he just started gambling when he became manager, then I have a bridge for sale.

Hero worship is some sad shit. Of all people to defend, why do so many run up a flag for Pete Rose? Is it because you actually respect the guy? Sure, he’s funny and can be engaging about the topic of baseball, but he was always a man in a state of arrested development. He never had the emotional equivalent beyond a teenager. That’s your hero.

He had ties to the mob. He ****ed your daughters. He also had 4000 hits. Jesus…. It’s a stretch for me to think this guy is cool or deserving of anything but total derision. Dude was Cincy shit pasta his whole life until he decided it was cool to trash Giamatti and travel to Cooperstown peddling his autograph while living in Vegas.

And here’s the rub…. Manfred is the worst one who sucks the penis commissioner next to Selig, and he’s clearly just blowing darts. Pete ain’t getting elected in the next five or ten years. He might be on a new bundle of sticks list of Manfred’s, but Rose ain’t getting in while so many other HOF’ers are still alive.

Pete signed his fate, and I guarantee you he did that knowing full well how god awful ****ed up MLB had him and we will never know that stuff.

Pete Rose is a ****ing scumbag POS, I hope he never gets into the HOF, and may he rot in Hell.

To your first point, if he is going to be eligible, then unseal everything. See if his family is cool with that. It's crazy that he is that kind of rap sheet and we don't even know anything.

Again continues to be for me... Betting (or intentionally not betting) on his team is the bannable offense. The huge rap sheet outside of that just seals the deal. Or at least should've been. Agreed, I don't understand the hero worship. I think the main issue is that Pete and shoeless Joe both threw games in such an indirect way that most of the public has come to believe the cover up lie.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

What are the first three? I assume #1 is 'never default on payments to drug kingpins who have pet hippos.'

https://pregamehq.com/10-essential-e...-commandments/

notably (tl:dr)

1. Never let no one know how much dough you hold.

Spoiler!

Unless you’re going public, most people don’t need to know the details of your profits or cashflow. Biggie’s reasoning is, of course, that more money can bring more problems, including jealousy and even shady dealings by those who are less than trustworthy. On the flipside, if you’re still building your business, you don’t want to scare away potential partners and customers by giving off a desperate vibe.

2. Never let ‘em know your next move.

Spoiler!

Today’s market is flooded with competitors. When everything moves at the speed of technology, it can be best to hold your next campaign until everything’s polished and in place. If you’re in idea or development mode, keep your cards close to your chest. Have your team sign non-disclosure agreements if necessary, and better yet, only bring people with a track record of integrity onto your team.

3. Never trust nobody.

Spoiler!

While paranoia is no way to do business, neither is blind faith. Still doing business on handshakes and verbal agreements? Don’t be surprised if you get burned.

One place I see bootstrapped entrepreneurs get in trouble is avoiding written agreements, especially barter deals. Even if an exchange doesn’t include money, you should always clearly outline the responsibilities of each party involved. More on business partnerships here.

4. Never get high on your own supply.

Spoiler!

Control your inventory. Everything carries a cost. It’s tempting to indulge, but especially when it comes to sharing that privilege, comping is a slippery slope. “Just one” turns into “just one more,” and friends expect the same treatment the next time they stop by.

Put a policy in place to protect your inventory and your relationships, whether it’s designating giveaways for staff or a standard 10% off for friends and family.

5. Never sell no crack where you rest at.

Spoiler!

This one goes out to those who use their Facebook feeds to promote their personal business, usually a network marketing product that encourages sales to friends and family. There’s no faster way to get unfollowed on social media or uninvited to real-life events than to pretend you’re just casually mentioning this amaaaaazing new wrinkle cream that you also happen to sell.

6. That g—d—- credit? Dead it.

Spoiler!

If your customer doesn’t have the money to pay you now, they probably won’t later either. I’ll take it a step further and add that the customers who ask for discounts are generally ones to avoid as well.

As a consultant for new businesses, I also avoid offers of equity in lieu of my fee. To even consider an equity deal, partners should receive the same information and consideration as any other investor – not just, “Hey, this is a great opportunity!”

7. Keep your family and business completely separated.

Spoiler!

It’s not just the premise for Empire. I’ve worked for multiple companies run by sets of siblings, and family dynamics always trickle down from the top, for better or worse. It can definitely make sense to go into business with your friend or family member, but in the interest of your relationship, be realistic about what you’re getting into.

Shifting into business mode with a loved one can threaten the business, or worse, the relationship. Be very clear on responsibilities, boundaries, and create time to develop your relationship both inside and outside of work. Also be conscious about creating a fair and objective environment for the rest of your team.

8. Never keep no weight on you.

Spoiler!

Are you weighing yourself down with too many commitments? In my book Game Plan, I explain how entrepreneurs undermine their goals by taking on roles that should be outsourced to maximize time, team, budget, and your valuable energy.

Or perhaps you’re held back by other issues. Do you approach new business with old baggage? Does a chip on your shoulder drive your decision-making? I’ve had clients whose business instincts were severely undermined by a need to impress others or prove someone wrong. Get your mind right and let go of the past in order to move forward in a way that benefits you and your business.

9. If you ain’t gettin’ bagged stay the f—- from police.

Spoiler!

Know your allegiances. Loyalty counts in business. Your partners, team, and clients should always trust that you have their backs. Deals made solely to benefit you (versus your team) or your business (versus your customer) will always come to light and damage trust that can’t be restored.

10. A strong word called consignment: if you ain’t got the clientele, say hell no.

Spoiler!

Growing your business at the right speed was wisdom long before Lean Startup methodology. Don’t over-commit in the early stages. Test your concept and build your audience before quitting your day job, hiring staff, or borrowing money.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Katipan

The first 3 are the same.

Don’t reveal how much you have.
Don’t reveal what you’re about to do.
Don’t trust anyone.

d'oh! yeah, kinda. they're certainly of a flavor of rule.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It mattered at 1 time to the point that they did not want gambling to be a part of any of the coverage...now it's everywhere.

And that is still not the same as players and coaches engaging in gambling being deemed acceptable.

I despise how much gambling is pushed but that doesn't mean Jackson and Rose should be given a free pass.

A fan betting $20 on the outcome doesn't threaten the game's integrity. Jackson taking 5k did.

[chiefzilla1501]

I get that leagues are promoting gambling a lot.

But isn't that more reason for zero tolerance to prove that they are doing their best to make sure players don't participate in it and that they are protecting the integrity of the game? If anything it should mean more strictness not less.

[BWillie]

I don't really care what happens now.

They are both dead.

I absolutely do not care about one thing after I am gone. So any punishment of not putting them in the hall has already been levied.