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Old 10-07-2004, 09:40 AM   #1
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when the Chiefs are playing well. it's always in spite of themselves, yet when they play bad, it's legitimate. my favorite are dante's returns are luck, instead of him just being an incrediblen returner..

I enjoyed seeing glimpes of the 90's defense the other night.
I didn't see any glimpses of that.

I like the direction this team is going but until KC's defense physically manhandles an opponent like KC's offense did the other night, I'll leave the comparisions to the '95 and '97 squads out of the discussion.

They are becoming solid. That's it. Still a loooooong way to go before they are dominate. I'm not sure this squad can be, but then again, they don't have to be. Remember?
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Old 10-07-2004, 09:44 AM   #2
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I didn't see any glimpses of that.

I like the direction this team is going but until KC's defense physically manhandles an opponent like KC's offense did the other night, I'll leave the comparisions to the '95 and '97 squads out of the discussion.

They are becoming solid. That's it. Still a loooooong way to go before they are dominate. I'm not sure this squad can be, but then again, they don't have to be. Remember?
I did. Four sacks, good tackling and swarming to the ball. 1 pick(negated)

I think the agressiveness you saw from the offense is partly due to Gun.
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Old 10-07-2004, 09:48 AM   #3
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I certainly hope this is improvement we're seeing...

I wouldnt mind seeing an anti-2003 season where KC's playing its best ball in Dec/Jan rather than Sep/Oct.
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Old 10-07-2004, 09:59 AM   #4
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I certainly hope this is improvement we're seeing...

I wouldnt mind seeing an anti-2003 season where KC's playing its best ball in Dec/Jan rather than Sep/Oct.
Exactly! I really believe that is the direction we are heading in too.
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Old 10-07-2004, 09:53 AM   #5
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I did. Four sacks, good tackling and swarming to the ball. 1 pick(negated)

I think the agressiveness you saw from the offense is partly due to Gun.
I saw all four sacks. With the exception of a corner blitz they were all the result of the coverage or line stunts. Until KC has a player that dominates the lineman across from him, they will not even touch those teams from the 90s. The tackling has been better, but the explosiveness in getting off blocks still isn't at that level IMHO.

You wouldn't see those 90s team give up as many 3rd and longs in the entire season as this team has in the first four games.
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I saw all four sacks. With the exception of a corner blitz they were all the result of the coverage or line stunts.
feh..so what...a sack is a sack.
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Old 10-07-2004, 10:05 AM   #7
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feh..so what...a sack is a sack.
Sure. But you can't compare this team to the 90s squads until a dominant, consistant threat emerges.

While getting sacks off blitzes, coverage, and line stunts are well and good, it's not a consistent, fear-inducing method found in dominant teams.

I'll be shocked if this team ends up in the top ten defensively. There are plenty of talent holes still in it. But a top 15 or top 20 defense certainly isn't out of the question. Should the offense and special teams return to form, that will be enough to make this squad extremely hard to beat. And that was the basis behind the Chiefs' strategy in the offseason anyway.
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Sure. But you can't compare this team to the 90s squads until a dominant, consistant threat emerges.

While getting sacks off blitzes, coverage, and line stunts are well and good, it's not a consistent, fear-inducing method found in dominant teams.

I'll be shocked if this team ends up in the top ten defensively. There are plenty of talent holes still in it. But a top 15 or top 20 defense certainly isn't out of the question. Should the offense and special teams return to form, that will be enough to make this squad extremely hard to beat. And that was the basis behind the Chiefs' strategy in the offseason anyway.
Im not comparing this team to the 90's. Getting sacks helps stop drives. I dont really care how it gets done, just get to the QB and put him down.

'domination' is relative and can be argued in infinite ways, but what KC did against the #1 rushing defense in the league was pretty damned good.
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I saw all four sacks. With the exception of a corner blitz they were all the result of the coverage or line stunts. Until KC has a player that dominates the lineman across from him, they will not even touch those teams from the 90s. The tackling has been better, but the explosiveness in getting off blocks still isn't at that level IMHO.

You wouldn't see those 90s team give up as many 3rd and longs in the entire season as this team has in the first four games.
huh? I'm referring to seeing guns scheme again. I never said they were or are going to be just like or as good as those defenses. They can't be.
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