Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff

bricks · 01-18-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

I wonder what Peterson would do if Gunther went to him and threatened to quit if Guinta wasn't fired?

I think that's what Gunther should do.

shaneo69 · 01-18-2005, 09:54 AM

I think we should all pray that G Rob asks Guinta to be his defensive coordinator at Syracuse. Oh, wouldn't that be too good to be true?

tomahawk kid · 01-18-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

I think we should all pray that G Rob asks Guinta to be his defensive coordinator at Syracuse. Oh, wouldn't that be too good to be true?

Don't freaking tease me.

shaneo69 · 01-18-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Don't freaking tease me.

He hasn't named a D-coordinator yet. He hired Major Applewhite to be QB coach, and former B ronco LB Steve Russ ('95-'00) to be LB coach. I guess we're lucky we didn't have more former B roncos on the defensive staff when he was here. I would bet money that Glenn Cadrez gets a job working for him somewhere down the line.

bricks · 01-18-2005, 10:01 AM

I completely don't understand this. Carl said there was going to be changes. Particularily on his defensive staff and players. Now WTF is happening? Vermeil is coming in and saying no? We'll not make changes? Is Vermeil over-ruling Carl? WTF? Why doesn't Carl just step in and say no! Dick these guys aren't good enough, we need to make a change. He's the fucking GM, he's got a higher position than Dick. C'mon Carl

STEP IN AND SHOW DICK YOUR THE BOSS!!!

bricks · 01-18-2005, 10:03 AM

If a coach can decide and over-rule over our GM, then, that says a lot about our GM as well. They can both go to hell if that's the case.

**PHOG** · 01-18-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

I think we should all pray that G Rob asks Guinta to be his defensive coordinator at Syracuse. Oh, wouldn't that be too good to be true?

Thanks to a nutless CP (

) and a clueless DV (

) this may be the best we could hope for.

ck_IN · 01-18-2005, 10:08 AM

100% agree. He had to be forced in St. Louis and it won them a Super -Bowl. It needs to be done here.

But in St. Lou the GM had intentions of staying and had no intention of letting DV bring him down. Their GM forced the issue. Our GM won't. If CP were to go gay it would be for DV and there's no way he'll force DV's hand in anything.

DV in turn won't change his coaches because its just not in him. Look at the whole Robinson saga and how DV was so teary eyed about it. There's no way DV would've fired Robinson and the same goes for the rest of this sorry crew.

The Chiefs have basicly wasted 4 years and counting on what could've been a rebuild with a coach dedicated to building a team that was his.

htismaqe · 01-18-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ck_IN

100% agree. He had to be forced in St. Louis and it won them a Super -Bowl. It needs to be done here.

But in St. Lou the GM had intentions of staying and had no intention of letting DV bring him down. Their GM forced the issue. Our GM won't. If CP were to go gay it would be for DV and there's no way he'll force DV's hand in anything.

DV in turn won't change his coaches because its just not in him. Look at the whole Robinson saga and how DV was so teary eyed about it. There's no way DV would've fired Robinson and the same goes for the rest of this sorry crew.

The Chiefs have basicly wasted 4 years and counting on what could've been a rebuild with a coach dedicated to building a team that was his.

There is a subtle implication here that is good news...

In St. Louis, the GM had intentions of staying. That's why he stepped in. Perhaps Carl has no intention of staying...

bricks · 01-18-2005, 10:22 AM

The more and more I hear about the Chiefs, and the way they handle their off-season problems, the more and more I think they're a joke. The way I hear the head coach speak, the more I think he's a contradiction. Not only a contradiction, but, an egotistical bastard as well. He's absolutely senile, has no balls, or toughness. The GM is arrogant. Can't even over-rule a HEAD COACH.
the Chiefs deserve to be what they are, 7-9, 8-8. simply cause of the FO down. I can't wait for an entire new over-haul. Here's to 2006

Chiefnj · 01-18-2005, 10:30 AM

"Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. "

At least Peterson can see there is a problem. To bad he can't force a change.

bricks · 01-18-2005, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

At least Peterson can see there is a problem. To bad he can't force a change.

If Peterson can't over-rule a "head coach". then, that goes to show something about this organization, doesn't it? He's not a leader, and definately not leading by example. he sees the problem so go fix it. fuck what the coach says. I want Carl gone. He can't lead. That's THE main problem.

01-18-2005, 09:54 AM	#2
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	I think we should all pray that G Rob asks Guinta to be his defensive coordinator at Syracuse. Oh, wouldn't that be too good to be true?
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01-18-2005, 10:01 AM	#5
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	I completely don't understand this. Carl said there was going to be changes. Particularily on his defensive staff and players. Now WTF is happening? Vermeil is coming in and saying no? We'll not make changes? Is Vermeil over-ruling Carl? WTF? Why doesn't Carl just step in and say no! Dick these guys aren't good enough, we need to make a change. He's the fucking GM, he's got a higher position than Dick. C'mon Carl STEP IN AND SHOW DICK YOUR THE BOSS!!!
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01-18-2005, 10:03 AM	#6
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	If a coach can decide and over-rule over our GM, then, that says a lot about our GM as well. They can both go to hell if that's the case.
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01-18-2005, 10:08 AM	#8
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	100% agree. He had to be forced in St. Louis and it won them a Super -Bowl. It needs to be done here. But in St. Lou the GM had intentions of staying and had no intention of letting DV bring him down. Their GM forced the issue. Our GM won't. If CP were to go gay it would be for DV and there's no way he'll force DV's hand in anything. DV in turn won't change his coaches because its just not in him. Look at the whole Robinson saga and how DV was so teary eyed about it. There's no way DV would've fired Robinson and the same goes for the rest of this sorry crew. The Chiefs have basicly wasted 4 years and counting on what could've been a rebuild with a coach dedicated to building a team that was his. __________________ As sweet as Tupelo Honey
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01-18-2005, 10:22 AM	#10
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	The more and more I hear about the Chiefs, and the way they handle their off-season problems, the more and more I think they're a joke. The way I hear the head coach speak, the more I think he's a contradiction. Not only a contradiction, but, an egotistical bastard as well. He's absolutely senile, has no balls, or toughness. The GM is arrogant. Can't even over-rule a HEAD COACH. the Chiefs deserve to be what they are, 7-9, 8-8. simply cause of the FO down. I can't wait for an entire new over-haul. Here's to 2006
Posts: 5,513

01-18-2005, 10:30 AM	#11
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	"Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. " At least Peterson can see there is a problem. To bad he can't force a change. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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